tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post1496682090473759115..comments2023-08-21T03:51:17.425-06:00Comments on Enlightened Catholicism: colkochhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03432916690101599393noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-41922736905094338232012-10-29T12:13:54.864-06:002012-10-29T12:13:54.864-06:00I know Terri, I think it's just discriminatory...I know Terri, I think it's just discriminatory the way our bishops care so much for the souls of gay people while they let straight people wallow in immorality and sexual license-- especially straight men. I think straight men deserve the same kind of pastoral concern the bishops give to gay men.colkochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03432916690101599393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-33499357938706651602012-10-29T08:22:12.816-06:002012-10-29T08:22:12.816-06:00If the Bishops' reason for denying even Civil ...If the Bishops' reason for denying even Civil marriage to homosexuals is because it encourages them to live 'immorally' then, how come the Bishops don't try to make it illegal for people to remarry civilly after divorce? Doesn't that, according to Catholic teaching, encourage an immoral lifestyle? Why the difference?Terrihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00112530666579308463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-84743628232521642572012-10-28T21:40:42.402-06:002012-10-28T21:40:42.402-06:00SO Do I Jamez. I think a lot of our western Cardin...SO Do I Jamez. I think a lot of our western Cardinals and Bishops most certainly protest too loudly. I wonder how much longer we have to deal with clerics who can't deal honestly and openly with their own sexuality. This celibacy thing, and male masturbation thing, and birth control thing, and sex as filthy thing compared to virginity thing has to stop--especially as it pertains to gay men and all women.colkochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03432916690101599393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-48541722974278506002012-10-28T21:35:18.686-06:002012-10-28T21:35:18.686-06:00p2p I hate to hear that our style fascist deceitfu...p2p I hate to hear that our style fascist deceitful political persons are now invested full bore in Canada, but I can't say I'm surprised. Oil is still black gold and Canada has a lot of it. So much for Jesus.colkochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03432916690101599393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-39108030067984970902012-10-28T20:25:46.795-06:002012-10-28T20:25:46.795-06:00WHell - this sexual confusive acting out certainly...WHell - this sexual confusive acting out certainly seems to be the case up here in Minnesota. Methinks the good bishop doth protest too much... jamezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12910320855332238203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-3373902521118599712012-10-28T17:32:37.254-06:002012-10-28T17:32:37.254-06:00No, there's more to it than that. US style pol...No, there's more to it than that. US style politics have been imported here too. The conservatives have hired people like Karl Rove to advise on their elections. For the first time ever there was massive cheating in the last federal election with candidates moving money around in an orchestrated way to circumvent our election finance laws. There was the use of US based "robocalls" to misinform people about the time and date of polling. We have imported some of the worst practices from the US. And some of the worst players too. The Koch's have investments in Canada and have attempted to use political muscle, oil pipelines, anyone? <br /><br />I could go on. <br /><br />p2pAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-38821938397004563892012-10-28T15:51:06.021-06:002012-10-28T15:51:06.021-06:00You mean American Catholic ecclesiastical social i...You mean American Catholic ecclesiastical social imperialism, don't you?<br /><br />Most US non-fundamentalist religionists and non-religionists have gotten wayyyyyyy beyond the attitudes and beligerence of the USCCB and their lay lackeys.Jimmy Machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01156445623455211484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-29214251607634878192012-10-28T13:34:47.239-06:002012-10-28T13:34:47.239-06:00Here's proof the USCCB are a bunch of partisan...Here's proof the USCCB are a bunch of partisan hacks, not worthy of their positions. Compare it to the Canadian Bishops statement on our recent federal election. The link takes you to a PDF file.<br /><br />http://www.cccb.ca/site/eng/media-room/3098-guide-for-2011-federal-election <br /><br />Some of my anger at the church is misplaced because I read American websites. The Canadian bishops address voting from a much more mature position, one which encourages voting, respects the individual's conscience, and puts forward the teaching of the church. <br /><br />The CCCB election "Guide":<br /><br />A. States: "Voting is a right and a responsibility"<br />B. Asks: "What do the political parties say about these issues? What positions are the candidates taking?"<br />C. Uses: "Examples of the application of Catholic moral and social teaching" for each category.<br /><br />By category: <br />• Respect for life and human dignity: from conception to natural death<br />• Building a more just society<br />• The person and the family<br />• Canada in the world: providing leadership for justice and peace<br />• A healthy country in a healthy environment <br /><br />The beatitudes are not forgotten. The respect for life statement is addresses much more than abortion and euthanasia. It also condemns the death penalty.<br /><br />The CCCB teaches on human rights, poverty, immigration, drugs, gambling, pay equity, seasonal workers, protecting natural resources, reducing pollution, reducing dependency on fossil fuels. It is a beautiful document. <br /><br />Furthermore, in Canada we have many political parties. If one wanted to follow all the teachings of the church one could vote for the Christian Heritage Party, which comes closest to the teachings of the Church. But Canada is, primarily, a Roman Catholic country. Like the USA political power is in the hands of two parties whose agendas and candidates are less than perfect. The CCCB acknowledges that. <br /><br />There is no reference to same sex marriage. <br /><br />I must say I do fear American social imperialism at times.<br /><br />p2pAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-13201586167036198442012-10-28T12:23:59.744-06:002012-10-28T12:23:59.744-06:00Thank you, Colkoch, for this succinct, profound an...Thank you, Colkoch, for this succinct, profound and effective summation. All voters, and not just Catholic ones, are in your debt.<br />Jerry SlevinJerry Slevinhttp://bilgrimage.comnoreply@blogger.com