tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post179708296130268384..comments2023-08-21T03:51:17.425-06:00Comments on Enlightened Catholicism: About Those Women Saints Of The Middle Ages Benedict Is Fond Ofcolkochhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03432916690101599393noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-4729618734285500922013-10-27T09:38:01.607-06:002013-10-27T09:38:01.607-06:00Pardon me, but all your comments smack of self con...Pardon me, but all your comments smack of self congratulation with no historical basis. You're applying your own post modern view of women totally out of historical context. oh BTW, it wasn't just women who couldn't read and write; it's not exactly like they had an interest in public schools for an agrarian based economy. Do you know how boring these pseudo intellectual attacks on doctrine and traditionalism are? I sincerely don't get why folks insist on trying to convert Catholicism to their own way of thinking?! At least Luther had the idiotic decency to split from the Church. If you don't like it, go find some weird pastor who got his or her creds online and then you can have a religion tailor-made to ensure all your vices and neuroses are a.o.k. with God.stpetenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-17786074165169212262010-10-16T11:57:04.132-06:002010-10-16T11:57:04.132-06:00Mrs. p2p is a great admirer of Hildegard of Bingen...Mrs. p2p is a great admirer of Hildegard of Bingen. I note in passing that Benedict spoke about her on 1 September. If you have thoughts on Hildegard we'd be interested. <br /><br />Unfortunately we've been called to assist an ill relative and will not be around for a few days. <br /><br />p2pAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-86714237328561818172010-10-16T11:33:50.649-06:002010-10-16T11:33:50.649-06:00Wouldn't it be great if the Pope gave talks on...Wouldn't it be great if the Pope gave talks on women mystics of today? Just as most mystics were not recognized (and perhaps persecuted) by the clerical churchmen in their day, so our current mystics are ignored or censured. <br />Coleen, from what I've read on this blog, it seems like you might qualify as a mystic of today.Mary H.https://www.blogger.com/profile/18319596057433636243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-25140633807611119402010-10-15T18:08:22.309-06:002010-10-15T18:08:22.309-06:00TheraP, there are a number of scholars who make th...TheraP, there are a number of scholars who make that same point. How much of what we have is actually Angela's visions and how much was her advisor's editing/sanitizing of those visions. Brother Arnoldo quotes himself asking her if he has the essense of one of her visions and she tells him, no he doesn't, but then she has no language to explain them herself.<br /><br />That's why Catherine of Sienna's writings hold more water. She wrote them herself--not that visions lend themselves to the written word with anywhere near the immediacy and content of actually experiencing them.<br /><br />Translynx, your point is well taken about Angela Merici. It's amazing to me how many of the women mystics founded their own orders. In some respects they were a subversive influence on their socities, which is why it doesn't surprise me the LCWR is itself considered subversive by today's Vatican. I guess this proves the old adage that no matter how much things change, others stay the same.colkochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03432916690101599393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-38393852993238958132010-10-15T14:39:01.121-06:002010-10-15T14:39:01.121-06:00I hate to mention this, but since she could neithe...I hate to mention this, but since she could neither read nor write and her "experiences" were ones she could hardly describe or that anyone could really understand, whatever WAS written down on her behalf... there was no way she could proofread it! So, except for maybe inspiration from the Holy Spirit, how do we know the validity of whatever is written about her anyway? <br /><br />Sorry to be a skeptic... But somebody's got to do it! ;)TheraPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17684120043427738135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-39596501207412891302010-10-15T14:12:58.451-06:002010-10-15T14:12:58.451-06:00It says much that Angela was given no opportunity ...It says much that Angela was given no opportunity to learn to read and write. In that time, only girls who were studying to become nuns had that chance. Not till the Renaissance did another Angela, St. Angela Merici, found the Ursuline order to educate "Christian wives and mothers." Girls were still stuck in the wife and mother role but the idea that they should be educated...wow! St. Angela Merici was centuries ahead of her time.Translynxnoreply@blogger.com