tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post2977721279130861056..comments2023-08-21T03:51:17.425-06:00Comments on Enlightened Catholicism: A Prophecy From A German Theologian Leads To Babbling About Lovecolkochhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03432916690101599393noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-6751360663636138942012-06-07T12:13:57.372-06:002012-06-07T12:13:57.372-06:00Marie Julie Jahenny ...... google her name and rea...Marie Julie Jahenny ...... google her name and read ON!!!!<br /> The change.gov advertisement on this page this day featuring Godless Communists asking for people to """" Please Sign To Let Cardinal Dolan Know Homeless Gay Youth Deserve Catholic Support""""<br /> is very TELLING!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-52244028224301850142011-01-07T14:53:24.929-07:002011-01-07T14:53:24.929-07:00Fr Henri Nouwen has a wonderful insight into the t...Fr Henri Nouwen has a wonderful insight into the true meaning of kenosis or "emptying out" of self. In his book "In The Name of Jesus" kenosis means giving up our need to be relevant, popular (spectacular) and powerful. These are the true and necessary lessons to be learned from Jesus' Temptations in the Desert. Ministry is to be attempted only AFTER these lessons are learned. Otherwise, ministry feeds only one's ego and narcissism and need to control others.Davehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14803657856471554881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-79088044544851626492011-01-05T00:42:02.610-07:002011-01-05T00:42:02.610-07:00Good comments one and all. I too like Rahner'...Good comments one and all. I too like Rahner's concept of the anonymous Christian. I more closely resembles what has been my own experience. Some of the people I know who most live the teachings of Jesus are not Christian. This says to me that the teachings are a universal truth even though they are often expressed in culturally specific terms.colkochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03432916690101599393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-82442569369050085092011-01-04T15:32:59.488-07:002011-01-04T15:32:59.488-07:00I love Karl Rahner's concept the "Anonymo...I love Karl Rahner's concept the "Anonymous Christian." We won't know who the real Christians are until we die. Then we may find that our true Christian brother is a Vietnamese Buddhist who walks behind his water buffalo through the rice paddy. What true humility and spiritual power we could have if we would undergo the true kenosis or emptying out of self. But this ideal will always be in conflict with our fearful need to control others. Unfortunately, religious authorities manipulate in the name of God.Davehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14803657856471554881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-10598059395309541362011-01-04T09:20:16.639-07:002011-01-04T09:20:16.639-07:00I think that Ratzinger got this notion from Rahner...I think that Ratzinger got this notion from Rahner who also predicted a smaller Church. There was one huge difference, however. Rahner posited that this would be a natural societal process rather than the product of excommunications and a restorationist agenda. Rahner recognized that with the loss of the Catholic ghetto being a Christian would necessitate a personal encounter with Christ in the midst of a secularized world. It would be much like the days of the Roman Empire where Christians were a small, but potent group. Potent, not because of worldly power, but because of a witness that is transformative.kevin57https://www.blogger.com/profile/01681985465980196347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-91246641429651203912011-01-03T12:33:09.237-07:002011-01-03T12:33:09.237-07:00@ Colleen,
Thank you for attempting to find my mi...@ Colleen,<br /><br />Thank you for attempting to find my missing comment.<br /><br />It was about Bishop Olmsted, Canadian Catholic hospitals and Canadian public hospitals. I won't attempt to include the quotes or references in my summary below.<br /><br />1. Catholic hospitals voluntarily eliminated their Ob/Gyn/ Maternity wards as a way of dealing with "provision of service" legislation.<br /><br />2. Public hospitals here attempt to treat the whole patient including their spiritual needs. So how is it that a bishop would cut off a Catholic hospital and yet provide ministry to other non-Catholic hospitals, military, schools and other public institutions? <br /><br />In Toronto public hospitals provide chaplains and facilitate access to clergy. They also provide chapels, sacred books, religious items such as prayer shawls etc.<br /><br />p2p<br /><br />Sorry to be off-topicAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-15272229084568102742011-01-03T10:25:27.946-07:002011-01-03T10:25:27.946-07:00I read that quote and wonder if my version of Engl...I read that quote and wonder if my version of English is anything like similar to either B16 or the priest/bishop/cardinal he was before his elevation. <br /><br />One wonders for example exactly what he means by initiative. It could be a fine and wonderful thing if it means more people step up of their own accord to provide ministry of various sorts. But maybe his version means they just look for more and 'better' ways fit into the niche in society the Church assigns to them - pay, pray and obey if you will. I certainly don't see much there to indicate a throwing out of the caste system the Church has become.<br /><br />As for the Church losing its privileges in society: Exactly what privileges does he think the church should have? What privileges did Jesus have during his 33 years living on this earth as a human being? And who accorded those privileges? That he wrote this in 1969 just means he felt entitled then, just as he apparently does now.<br />VeronicaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-87677151552370413932011-01-03T00:49:57.138-07:002011-01-03T00:49:57.138-07:00p2p your longer comment was in the SPAM folder. I...p2p your longer comment was in the SPAM folder. I attempted to publish it but it seems it is now lost in cyberspace. Maybe it will show up later.<br /><br />It does seem that the search for meaningful spirituality is a not well understood phenomenon and much more prevalent than the press about secularism and atheism would have us believe. There are a lot of fish which could be caught, but the fishermen seriously need to change bait.colkochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03432916690101599393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-11165753088839735662011-01-03T00:35:00.217-07:002011-01-03T00:35:00.217-07:00Kallisti, I so agree with your picture. The thing ...Kallisti, I so agree with your picture. The thing is Jesus also drug the Apostles around for three years so they could directly experience the outcome of his teachings--and they still didn't get a lot of it.colkochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03432916690101599393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-91941049403802292762011-01-02T11:18:25.703-07:002011-01-02T11:18:25.703-07:00I sometimes swim with the secular fishes over at D...I sometimes swim with the secular fishes over at DailyKos. There were several posts concerning religion that dominated the recommended list on New Year's Day. <br /><br /><a href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/1/1/932720/-I-Was-A-Christian-Once" rel="nofollow">I was a Christian Once</a> started things off. There were over 900 comments before it dropped off the list. Then there were the response diaries including "I Still am a Christian" with over 1,100 comments and "Why I am a Buddhist - a case in favor of religion", "Why I am an atheist", "Religion, or lack of it is irrelevant", "Why I am not an Atheist" etc.<br /><br />That sea is teeming with humanity, heaving with struggles that might be the natural environment of religion. <br /><br />And we've got a leadership made up of cats who don't like to get their red leather Prada's wet. They don't even like fish. <br /><br />p2p<br /><br />PS Colleen, I made a long comment earlier that never did appear. Please check the spam file and rescue it if it is possible. Thanks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-17383594157107399052011-01-02T10:38:25.914-07:002011-01-02T10:38:25.914-07:00When I look at Jesus and the disciples in the NT, ...When I look at Jesus and the disciples in the NT, (especially in Mark) I frequently get the picture of a frustrated and patient teacher dealing with folks who consistently don't get it. In fact, If I were to paint a mural of christian history it would be this: Jesus, hand firmly smacking his head in the middle of a room crowded with arguing apostles who seem to be actively ignoring him.<br /><br />KallistiAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com