tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post3958920575304821302..comments2023-08-21T03:51:17.425-06:00Comments on Enlightened Catholicism: Using Patients And Catholic Hospitals For The New Evangelizationcolkochhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03432916690101599393noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-65232807695072604852010-06-10T15:33:29.715-06:002010-06-10T15:33:29.715-06:00That is a very good suggestion: Add a directive th...That is a very good suggestion: Add a directive that for end-of-life care I not be taken to a Catholic hospital for any reason. I see I have more updates to make to some of my legal paperwork.<br /><br />And I do live in an area where the local hospital had been run strictly by the local government/hospital board. Until the chain of Catholic hospitals in this area bought it out and turned it into a Catholic Hospital. The next nearest non-Catholic hospital is another 60 miles down the road. Somehow I don't think in an emergency, the ambulance is going to drive the extra 60 miles no matter what my spouse tells them.<br /><br />I'm seriously starting to think about a society where ALL health care is both non-profit AND totally secular in nature. Because otherwise human beings are treated as either profit centers or cattle upon which to practice one's own 'conscience' regardless of the wishes of the patient.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-38071041839327960672010-06-10T08:14:56.540-06:002010-06-10T08:14:56.540-06:00There was another story on Huffpo the other day ab...There was another story on Huffpo the other day about Saudi Arabia where a female college student passed out in class. The staff called for emergency help and then campus security refused to let the EMT's on the campus because they were male and if they assisted the female student they would compromise the honor of her male relatives. During the theological debate and loop hole search, the girl died.<br /><br />This exact same scenario could easily have happened in the Phoenix case. Why is it that male religious figures can so easily sacrifice women they don't know for the sake of the integrity of their religious rules? Why have both Christianity and Islam strayed so far from the intent of their founders? Why must women and children pay the price?<br /><br />Seems to me there is a fundamental confusion between religion and the spiritual path. Religions should lay down a foundation for living a spiritual life which ultimately transcends the foundational religion. This is exactly the path Jesus took. He transcended the religion of Judaism by living His understanding of the spiritual path Judaism started Him on.<br /><br />One of the reasons I really dislike the self comparison of the Church with 'mother' is because real parents want their children to surpass them, to have a better life, to know more, to be better. With 'mother' church it's exactly the opposite, as if spirituality exists in a separate class where there is no progress, nothing more to be learned, no greater vision to be had, no chance to see or hear as Jesus did. I don't buy it.colkochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03432916690101599393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-87801087392504721282010-06-10T01:01:29.694-06:002010-06-10T01:01:29.694-06:00Murder is very much on the agenda of our hierarchy...Murder is very much on the agenda of our hierarchy -- how many hundreds of thousands have died in agony because of the false teaching of Humanae Vitae and its absolutistic implementation? As to abortion, it is an obsession of strange men like John Paul II, that has wrought havoc in countless women's lives, killing an unknown number of them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-8334024036433871252010-06-09T13:35:34.573-06:002010-06-09T13:35:34.573-06:00Soothing music. A forest grove. A bishop - in a ...Soothing music. A forest grove. A bishop - in a long velvet train, carried by altar boys, flanked by candles, leads a procession. Ladies with rosaries line the path. As a voice intones:<br /><br /><i>Prenatal to Grave... we will take TOTAL CONTROL of your health care. Forget about "needs" - just place yourself our ecclesiastic hands. </i><br /><br />Cut to a horrified onlooker, who cries:<br /><br />"<b>The same hands that abused children will also abuse you...</b>"TheraPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17684120043427738135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-71774199771148853832010-06-09T13:35:15.975-06:002010-06-09T13:35:15.975-06:00I absolutely believed I was a pro-life Catholic un...I absolutely believed I was a pro-life Catholic until I read everything about this tragedy. Via my informed conscience (of faith, WWJD, common sense, logic, reason, humanity & compassion) I am pro-choice as I without question see why abortion must be legal in some measure.Marynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-70170346480797713942010-06-09T11:58:46.361-06:002010-06-09T11:58:46.361-06:00It would also seem that a hand sticking out of the...It would also seem that a hand sticking out of the cervix and the patient being septic are reason to abort the pregnancy, as the pregnancy is no longer a valid pregnancy that is pro-life for the mother or the child. For Christ's sake already. These idiot Bishops should not get away with this crap. They are not doctors, they are abusing their priesthood and their thinking is toxic waste!<br /><br />word verification: outedbutterflyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09684946870144030594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-88749238477170053532010-06-09T11:46:12.083-06:002010-06-09T11:46:12.083-06:00Excellent points Colleen. Olmsted is being dictato...Excellent points Colleen. Olmsted is being dictatorial and why was the mother not excommunicated? Good question.<br /><br />Freedom of conscience and religion do not exist for anyone but the Vatican and Bishops..... these men are flexing their tyrannical muscles instead of flexing some pastoral concern for a mother and her four other children and her husband. <br /><br />I gave birth to my son in a Catholic hospital. A priest visited the room and was so very nice to the out of wedlock young hispanic girl who just gave birth and treated me, white and married, like a piece of crap. He wanted to know what parish I was in. We just moved there and I did not know. His rudeness towards me was so pathetic. There is no way I would be caught in a Catholic hospital again, knowing the ignorant types that are "evangelizing" hospitals. <br /><br />These people such as Bishop Olmsted are monsters and creatures of death for women everywhere!!butterflyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09684946870144030594noreply@blogger.com