tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post5367290769086600873..comments2023-08-21T03:51:17.425-06:00Comments on Enlightened Catholicism: Religious Authority And The Emerging Churchcolkochhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03432916690101599393noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-6823143818056811012009-09-23T10:30:43.418-06:002009-09-23T10:30:43.418-06:00No anonymous I am not really a marcionist or a gno...No anonymous I am not really a marcionist or a gnostic. Although I can see where one could maybe get that impression from the quote you cite.<br /><br />Actually, I think Jesus embodies the God of the Prophets of the old testament. The God that was always about compassion and care for the marginalized.<br /><br /> <br />Fran, I really liked what you wrote and felt it fit into this post. Where is our faith without our questions? No further than it was in first grade.colkochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03432916690101599393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-20061486076972828072009-09-22T23:01:58.744-06:002009-09-22T23:01:58.744-06:00Is it the Jesus Christ who ministered daily to the...Is it the Jesus Christ who ministered daily to the marginalized in the fullness of His humanity and brought us the God of love, or is it the post Crucifixion Jesus Christ who gave the keys to Peter and becomes the sacrificial victim to appease the Old Testament's vengeful God, where fearful obedience trumps love.<br /><br />Are you a Marcionist?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-77560789436235877062009-09-22T18:15:37.215-06:002009-09-22T18:15:37.215-06:00Colleen - I am honored to find my blog linked to y...Colleen - I am honored to find my blog linked to your post! I have read you in my various incarnations from FranIam and my church blog, but have not been by in awhile.<br /><br />Thank you not only for the link, but for this thought provoking and stirring post. <br /><br />The link to Burke's speech really underscores so much anger and vitriol, such disdain and an utter lack of love as I have come to understand it through my faith.<br /><br />Like Butterfly says - the whining echoes as a dull ache somewhere deep within. It is very sad.<br /><br />There is no lack of suffering but must we increase it with negativity and exclusion?<br /><br />Or do we throw open the gates of our hearts and minds and live our way into the very emerging church that you and so many call for?<br /><br />Peace to you.Franhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07181529277715646835noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-7145307467944041472009-09-22T06:42:42.169-06:002009-09-22T06:42:42.169-06:00Butterfly, I noticed the comments on the value of ...Butterfly, I noticed the comments on the value of shaming myself. I was like, whoa, hate to be one of their kids. Good ole fashioned guilt is one thing, shame is an entirely different ball game. Wonder how many kids with eating disorders these upstanding parents will create.<br /><br />Orlando, the photo of Benedict certainly does make one wonder about the place of poverty in the Vatican. Every time I post one of those photos of the Pope in glittering gold and lace I have visions of Native Medicine men I've worked with who don't usually even have gas money to get to the next ceremony.<br /><br />Ratbiter, I would call the blatant manipulation of the relative importance of particular moral doctrine for political gain relativism of the worst kind. It's making Burke a wealthy, powerful and famous man.colkochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03432916690101599393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-36692976818979269092009-09-22T01:53:18.716-06:002009-09-22T01:53:18.716-06:00Interesting link below. Apparently, women are just...Interesting link below. Apparently, women are just baby machines in the world today for certain religious fanatics to use to increase their membership. In the Anglican Christian world view in Nigeria this is "an attack on Christianity."<br /><br />http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/religion/6213269/Muslims-mass-producing-babies-to-take-over-Africa-says-Nigerian-Anglican-leader.html<br /><br />Colleen, yours is an inspiring post & so were the links, other than to Burke's bull. I liked your quote better, but here is Romans 1:20 New International Version:<br /><br />"For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse."<br /><br />I often refer to the planet Earth as a space ship. Try not to laugh, but think about this: it is a moving body built by God that moves in space, in relationship to other bodies that God created, which are also moving in a specific pattern. Everything living is moving. When things stop moving, like certain minds we know of, they are dead; like rocks and dead limbs from trees. The Space Station, is also moving, but was created by man with all that he knows about nature. In that spaceship there has to be an environment in which they can live and that is known because of science, man's understanding of nature. I think in that smaller environment they are more careful about the environment, or they are gone quick. Here, we think, or imagine that this is big enough a place to cut down trees or overload with fossil fuel emissions & do whatever without a consequence. This takes a toll on the weather patterns and creates climate extremes. <br /><br />I love this quote of Fr. Richard Rohr: "As I love to say to crowds: Do you really think God wasn't talking for the first 14 billion years or whatever it is?"<br /><br />I read recently that astronauts working outside the Space Station said that space had a very distinct odor that was like sulfur. Reading about Jupiter, I suspect that is where the smell is coming from, or maybe it's from all the gun powder from the Wars on Earth. Did you know that over 1000 Earths could fit into Jupiter? Some scientist believe that Jupiter protects the inner part of our solar system from meteors, and others don't believe that is true. <br /><br />What a beautiful place God has given for us to live. Too bad that man still has the appetite for warring, thieving, the other immoral things that are potentially more anti-life to everyone.butterflyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09684946870144030594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-45141803776934966002009-09-21T20:31:17.331-06:002009-09-21T20:31:17.331-06:00"Orlando Furioso said...
you'll enjoy th..."Orlando Furioso said... <br />you'll enjoy this:<br /><br />http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/political-pictures-pope-benedict-xvi-vow-poverty.jpg"<br /><br />## LOL. I wish I were that poor :) <br /><br />If the Pope is the "Servant of the Servants of God" - doesn't that mean we get to tell him what to do ? :) If so, then we should have the nice clothes.Rat-biternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-12384475112310392902009-09-21T20:29:06.013-06:002009-09-21T20:29:06.013-06:00The people praising Bully Burke probably left thei...The people praising Bully Burke probably left their brains and consciences at home. Neither of these items were present in their postings.khughes1963https://www.blogger.com/profile/16118365554189078448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-85533694338845018972009-09-21T20:19:21.379-06:002009-09-21T20:19:21.379-06:00## Talking of religious authority, how's this ...## Talking of religious authority, how's this for obsession and monomania:<br /><br />Abp. Burke on the Evil Ted:<br /><br />http://insidecatholic.com/Joomla/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=6902&Itemid=48<br /><br />Also:<br /><br />The desirability of not burying "pro-abort politicians":<br /> <br />http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2009/sep/09092111.html<br /> <br />The idiocy of some Catholics never ceases to amaze me. Why not be consistent, & refuse burial to Father Paed O'Phile, Bishop Pimp-Enabler, & suchlike ? As if ! <br /><br />Rome is so mired in relativism - the relativism the Pope claims to hate so much - that crimes against the most vulnerable go unpunished, despite scandal after scandal. If in doubt - be a foetus: otherwise Rome does not & could not care a damn. <br /><br />These people are a joke - they are making the Church into a refuge for right-wing sicko scumbags.Rat-biternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-84785538934831415332009-09-21T16:01:28.484-06:002009-09-21T16:01:28.484-06:00you'll enjoy this:
http://punditkitchen.files...you'll enjoy this:<br /><br />http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/political-pictures-pope-benedict-xvi-vow-poverty.jpgCaptain Picardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07675995256310168056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-46143271055437670342009-09-21T15:16:54.574-06:002009-09-21T15:16:54.574-06:00Well, Colleen, I was fine emotionally and spiritua...Well, Colleen, I was fine emotionally and spiritually reading about the Emerging Church. Then I read the link to Raymond Burke's speech and then read the comments. It is like entering a room filled with whining brats and the parents just let them annoy the heck out of everyone. They want to shame people now. Shame on them!!<br /><br />I am out of that room, but their whining echoes. They have such a negative affect on me. Too many whining babies in the Church. It is pathetic. I have a headache.butterflyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09684946870144030594noreply@blogger.com