tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post5608228111791902328..comments2023-08-21T03:51:17.425-06:00Comments on Enlightened Catholicism: Opus Dei Bio Medical Science To Compete With Lay Versioncolkochhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03432916690101599393noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-88196512763621763262008-09-24T12:11:00.000-06:002008-09-24T12:11:00.000-06:00I believe there are different types of healers and...I believe there are different types of healers and Padre Pio is one example. Another might be Thomas Merton. If I had not read his writings I would not have found my own voice which had been repressed and suppressed by culture, family, and Church.butterflyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09684946870144030594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-6749844939582082722008-09-24T08:32:00.000-06:002008-09-24T08:32:00.000-06:00Butterfly, the interesting thing about what you've...Butterfly, the interesting thing about what you've written is the part where you say "If one hates themselves without knowing it they would need a specialist to identify it."<BR/><BR/>In all the hoopla over Padre Pio I think people miss out on the fact that he 'read' souls. He knew what the root cause for the guilt and self hate was, and because he was a priest, in the sacrament of confession he was able to trigger the self forgiveness mechanism. In other words, he had the sacramental 'magic' which people truly believed forgave them their sins and released them from the emotion attached to the root core event. Once a person reaches that state, their is no more need for the disease, and it disappears.<BR/><BR/>I still think that if we did before and after studies of the individual's DNA we would see the change mirrored in the DNA. Changing the DNA is responsible for the change in the physical manifestation, changing the emotional energy is responsible for the change in the DNA. In one sense it's about returning the body, mind, and emotional state to it's original intention. My Native buddies would describe this as closing the circle and returning to the starting point.<BR/><BR/>In reality, the healing is accomplished by the individual's own Divinely underpinned life processes, and the healer only serves as the catalyst. The Divine then is inseparable from the process, not out there somewhere deciding who gets healing and who doesn't.colkochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03432916690101599393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-91526553291876926722008-09-24T07:42:00.000-06:002008-09-24T07:42:00.000-06:00I can relate to what you are both saying Carl and ...I can relate to what you are both saying Carl and Colleen. Carl, the battle lines are being drawn. People, like Rev Hagee or Opus Dei in the extreme, read into a mistaken reality (that is falsely supported by mistranslation of "The Word") and they shape their views and reality from that superficial understanding, at the gut level. Interesting that McCain's campaign is run from the gut level and not the head. That would explain the biomedical science, science of the gut, completely overshadowing the science of the spiritual mind - thoughts that can cause living cells to invade healthy cells and destroy them in the process or thoughts that heal like Jesus. The political process seems to mirror the same sort of cancer that takes over the healthy and destroys it. The microcosmic becomes macrocosmic?<BR/><BR/>I know of a charismatic priest who has preached about forgiveness as a way to healing oneself and aiding in the recovery and healing of others by forgiving them. His political views are another matter and it doesn't seem he's made that jump or leap in connecting the dots that political or religious views from the gut (the Magisterium) are not necessarily the right ones, or healthy ones. In the political & religious sphere there is a lot of forgiving that needs to be done in order for us all to heal. <BR/><BR/>Cancer is like an internal Armageddon. The political cancer is from the thoughts, to words, to actions that might create circumstances favorable for Armageddon.<BR/><BR/>I see this Opus Dei group as dangerous because they are secretive and because of their history. This biomedical research place they have opened says they seem to have utter contempt for secular institutions and it will be a recruiting place no doubt. By insisting on their own research "their way" they believe maybe they will find a cure. Maybe they think the secular institutions have been hiding the cure in secret somewhere and they are going to unveil the secrecy to the world. But, as you have said Carl and Colleen, cancer is probably a spiritual condition. If only the Church would concentrate on the spiritual dynamics at play in their role as Jesus taught for them to be real healers. Spreading fear, guilt, shame and a lot of other negative energy will only reap negative energy.<BR/><BR/>I think when Jesus said "Feed my sheep" that He was talking about spiritual food and that is from thoughts, to words, to actions that contain the truth of Jesus which is that He taught His disciples how to heal others. To heal would be loving, Christ-like.<BR/><BR/>That brings me to the thought about hatred for others and self-loathing which could cause cancer or wars. In order to heal from the cancer one would have to admit to the hatred or self-hatred. If one hates themself without knowing it they would need a specialist to identify it. The oncologist treats the effect not the cause. <BR/><BR/>I am in total agreement with you Colleen that "We should be training more Padre Pio's, not more oncologists." Amen.butterflyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09684946870144030594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-73443037985914073052008-09-24T06:19:00.000-06:002008-09-24T06:19:00.000-06:00Interesting article, Colleen--and your comments ar...Interesting article, Colleen--and your comments are right on target, in my book. Why, indeed, set up an alternative center to study science? Unless you want to invent some alternative science?<BR/><BR/>I'm taken with what you say about light and darkness, Carl. The more the light shines, the more the darkness is also made evident.<BR/><BR/>That helps me understand why some of the battles in the religio-cultural war are so fierce right now. When darkness is in danger of getting exposed, it tries to put out the light that's exposing it.William D. Lindseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07246026074693891965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-9361282004010805482008-09-24T05:37:00.000-06:002008-09-24T05:37:00.000-06:00Carl, it's funny you should mention your theory ab...Carl, it's funny you should mention your theory about cancer.<BR/>In most of the cases I have worked with where there was spontaneous remission it's been with young children, but that only happened after the dominant parent went through some sort of personal conversion, usually over a guilt or fear issue---most of the time it's not something they are even consciously aware of.<BR/><BR/>In adult cures, it's always over a guilt or fear issue and once that is resolved, the cancer will go into remisssion. I suspect the reason there is no cure for cancer is because the etiology is in the mind and the cancer in the body is the expression for the mind.<BR/><BR/>There are of course other reasons for cancer, like environmental carcinogens. The interesting thing for me is that I truly think instantaneous cures are evidence of our ability to change our DNA.<BR/>Basically DNA is reset to a time in which the disease was not present and viola you observe an instant cure.<BR/><BR/>Following these lines of research is probably not going to be happening in Opus Dei's research facilities, but I think this line of research holds out great promise. We should be training more Padre Pio's, not more oncologists.colkochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03432916690101599393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-75914491865524557962008-09-23T19:45:00.000-06:002008-09-23T19:45:00.000-06:00When it comes to Opus Dei, I dont think there is s...When it comes to Opus Dei, I dont think there is such a thing as being too paranoid. Perhaps it is my jaded nature, but I do not trust any organization with that much power, that much covert influence and that much secrecy. I continue to have doubts about their real motives. Perhaps there was more truth in the Da Vinci code than we realize.<BR/><BR/>It is interesting how closely current events seem to be in parallel with recent literary works that deal with the antichrist. Interesting that all of this is surfacing now, at the same time that there is so much progress and understanding being made into the true nature of who we really are and the real power that we all have within us. <BR/><BR/>Sometimes it seems like a war is being waged by the conservative fundamentalist groups against those who are committed to bringing the real truth of divine love into greater expression. <BR/><BR/>Recent events could be interpreted as battle lines being drawn by the groups that espouse a philosophy of hate against those who are working to bring divine love into greater expression.<BR/><BR/>There is an axiom I was taught early in my ministerial training that states that the more we allow the Light to shine in us and through us, the more darkness that will be illuminated. As we move closer to the light within us, the darkness within is easier to see. That is true on a personal level, and certainly seems to be the case now on a global level. <BR/><BR/>Shifting thoughts to cancer. I have always thought that cancer was a spiritual condition, not a medical condition. A condition that resulted from long term repressed fear and hatred that was unresolved. A recent AP article stated that we are no nearer a medical cure for cancer than we were 40 years ago. In a different article, there was reference to the success of alternative methods of cancer treatment. Interesting thing, the successful methods all have forgiveness work as part of the program.<BR/><BR/>Wouldnt it be an interesting development if it was proven that the way to prevent and cure cancer was something as mundane as forgiveness and acceptance?COL55https://www.blogger.com/profile/07057765287988790129noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-20747487765210012612008-09-23T19:42:00.000-06:002008-09-23T19:42:00.000-06:00This comment has been removed by the author.COL55https://www.blogger.com/profile/07057765287988790129noreply@blogger.com