tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post6039715938171059402..comments2023-08-21T03:51:17.425-06:00Comments on Enlightened Catholicism: Condoms Part IV: We'll Know What Benedict Really Meant When Caritas Gets Their Clarificationcolkochhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03432916690101599393noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-20047098160557107652010-11-24T12:48:13.152-07:002010-11-24T12:48:13.152-07:00Your welcome coolmom. It almost seems like America...Your welcome coolmom. It almost seems like American Catholicism has been hit by a plague. The spiritual version of the physical plague of AIDS in Africa.colkochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03432916690101599393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-1763008602020695432010-11-23T18:53:13.030-07:002010-11-23T18:53:13.030-07:00Thanks, Colleen, for helping me broaden my vision ...Thanks, Colleen, for helping me broaden my vision a bit. It so feels like sinking in the quicksand these days. <br />A dear friend has just withdrawn from all ministries, goes to Mass during the week to share in the Eucharist, and is giving her donations and volunteer time elsewhere. <br />The young people are gone and many of the older people are not joining another church, just staying home.coolmomnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-61910358600738193392010-11-23T13:03:36.461-07:002010-11-23T13:03:36.461-07:00It's not easy to stay warm Mareczku. The temp ...It's not easy to stay warm Mareczku. The temp is slightly below zero, but the wind chill is minus 25. <br /><br />My three cats are not happy with their tin god who can't seem to change the weather.colkochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03432916690101599393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-64269308074248618152010-11-23T11:11:06.755-07:002010-11-23T11:11:06.755-07:00Good article and good comments here. Stay warm, C...Good article and good comments here. Stay warm, Colleen.Mareczkuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13122584421854834046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-17826005213943005322010-11-23T06:12:29.325-07:002010-11-23T06:12:29.325-07:00Dennis, good to hear you are busy. Up here in Mont...Dennis, good to hear you are busy. Up here in Montana it's just flat cold and snowy and no one is much busy.colkochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03432916690101599393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-21649100241564213192010-11-23T06:10:56.267-07:002010-11-23T06:10:56.267-07:00coolmom, this HIV condom issue was my personal Wat...coolmom, this HIV condom issue was my personal Waterloo with any ritual affiliation with the Church.<br /><br />To me this was the issue which signified the hierarchy was willing to tolerate immense inhumanity to others to maintain the bogus basis of their teaching authority. When a Catholic can't use a condom to prevent harm to another so that the hierarchy can uphold Humanae Vitae, that was too much for me. <br /><br />I'm aware of the fact in the West this was not much of an issue because it was ignored. In the South, it is a huge issue, especially in areas where the only available medical services are Caritas or another Catholic charity, and they could not distribute condoms---openly. This change could mean life for thousands of people, maybe millions in Africa, Indonesia, and South East Asia.<br /><br />Humanae Vitae, in my mind, is a pro death policy, and this issue of AIDS and condoms is the most egregious of it's death dealing attributes.colkochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03432916690101599393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-43468064786289256552010-11-23T00:12:41.769-07:002010-11-23T00:12:41.769-07:00Coolmom,
You are correct, it is time for more o...Coolmom, <br /><br />You are correct, it is time for more of the thinking People of God---- laity and religious to move on and forget the authoritarian claims of a hypocritical hierarchy. Remember everyone that the opposite of love is not really hate. Hate is a strong emotion as is love, It is closer to love than some may think. So it is time to quit hating and examining what these old men are saying and doing. The opposite of love is what the Episcopacy is currently showing the laity --- that is total disregard. They are ignoring the real problems of the People of God. It is time to ignore them. Let the People of God move on in a more loving society that does not give credence or allegiance to Episcopal demagogues who do not have our best interests in mind. They simply are looking more after themselves than others. <br /><br />Coleen, thank you for your well wishes! While I am not very well, I have been more busy than sick recently. dennisrdp46https://www.blogger.com/profile/04427786268228285222noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-37007359720241683162010-11-22T18:38:54.809-07:002010-11-22T18:38:54.809-07:00Colleen: Am I missing something or why do I care ...Colleen: Am I missing something or why do I care what the Pope says about condoms? I am not listening or caring.<br /> The people I work with are losing their homes, their children are going hungry; we are moving into the coldest time of the year and they don't have money for heating fuel.<br />At my parish, the KofC which used to help the poor before they became fundraisers for the hierarchy, just gifted the pastor with a beautiful white chasuble embroidered with the KofC logo. What's next? One with the BP logo?<br />In third world countries it is worse. Why are people worrying about condoms, or why are they even listening to these men in Rome?<br />Sorry, not complaining about you just so frustrated! We need to move forward! Not wait for them to lead!coolmomnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-43131160866818198982010-11-22T14:55:27.218-07:002010-11-22T14:55:27.218-07:00Carla my friend is more or less a lapsed Mormon, a...Carla my friend is more or less a lapsed Mormon, and was sort of surprised when I mentioned the LDS Church was making changes in the CHI and it was on the inter net. She found that quite surprising as well.<br /><br />A clear statement will undoubtedly come in the clarification asked for by Caritas International.colkochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03432916690101599393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-26491506122698727202010-11-22T13:51:04.095-07:002010-11-22T13:51:04.095-07:00I had to snicker at the mention of a Mormon being ...I had to snicker at the mention of a Mormon being baffled at such controversy over minutiae. I have never seen such controversy as over the parsing and analysis of the new wording of the Church Handbook of Instructions, and the edits made to Boyd Packer's talk from General Conference this past October.<br /><br />But really, I don't expect "conservative" Catholics to let this kind of thing get in the way of their demonization of birth control. The words of the Pope, like the words of the Bible, church fathers, encyclicals, and council documents, can be construed to mean anything you want. People have been doing it for centuries. Until there's a clear statement about what this means, people will make of it what they will. And unless that clear statement comes directly from the Pope, conservatives will say that it was not interpreted correctly if that message is that our understanding of the morality of sexuality is changing at all.Carla Schmidt Hollowayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12947846629735463824noreply@blogger.com