tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post6732455788822352606..comments2023-08-21T03:51:17.425-06:00Comments on Enlightened Catholicism: Peter And The Keys To The Kingdomcolkochhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03432916690101599393noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-28400411833590951362010-11-03T09:56:47.926-06:002010-11-03T09:56:47.926-06:00Colleen, I believe the vision Michaelangelo had of...Colleen, I believe the vision Michaelangelo had of the Pieta in the stone was mystical and "information from the Greater Reality" (heavenly, & I hope this is what you mean) as well was Beethoven's 9th Symphony. I believe the information from the Greater Reality works as a gift through the senses interiorly and then moves outward to the external reality.<br /><br />On another note and related, I've read the stories of near death experiences years ago and it motivated me to think about how I would like to spend my eternity. It forced me to think about my life here in the here and now. It brought my dreams to the surface when contemplating about the end of my life here and what I might do and be in the next. Of course my personal heaven is full of artist and composers and inventors, creative people. I am glad to not be in a seat of judgment in this heaven. I imagine it to be like Earth in appearance and in which creativity continues and we can truly be all we were meant to be. We are limited here, repressed, unless we bring heaven here, are open to receive it like you say. To me, Heaven is also a place in which all the things one desires to know can be learned and relationships with people are not clouded by any falseness of the senses that often can distort the truth.<br /><br />In the heaven I imagine jamming with John Lennon, Beethoven and all the greats and never heard of in the greatest of orchestras and bands ever & lots of singing and composing. Jesus said that He "prepares a place for us."butterflyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09684946870144030594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-26335959757999124582010-11-03T07:55:35.257-06:002010-11-03T07:55:35.257-06:00butterfly, your point is well taken because any of...butterfly, your point is well taken because any of our experiences in this reality are products of sense reception. Part of the mystical path is to get past the enculturated limits of our senses and open them up to recieve information from the Greater Reality. Beethoven is a great example of our capacity to do just that. I'm always amazed when listening to his Ode to Joy to think he was actually deaf in this reality when he wrote it, and that meant all the individual parts for all the instruments and voices. Some part of his self aware consciousness was not limited by his deafness that's for sure.colkochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03432916690101599393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-17437583588581763582010-11-03T07:48:39.515-06:002010-11-03T07:48:39.515-06:00mjc, it's not so much that you drag you sins w...mjc, it's not so much that you drag you sins with you to the next world, it's more you take your misconceptions and misunderstandings as well as your truths, your relationships, and your passions.<br /><br />It's interesting reading Near Death Experiences. People have very similar experiences of going down a tunnel and being greeted by relatives and other beings, but they also have very different experiences as to how they conceive the reality in which they are met. For instance, it does seem there is a Catholic heaven, and a Muslim heaven, and a Native Other Side Camp. None of these are 'true' in the big sense, but they are in an individual sense. Our individual heaven will reflect what we individually think and believe about it, just as our waking reality reflects what we think and believe about it. <br /><br />As to the emotional part, if you die thinking your dead ex spouse deserves to be burning in hell, you may very well 'see' that, but it will be your illusion and not your ex spouses reality. As to what is really happening to your ex spouse, that depends on them and on God. We do not have the capacity to judge another in any meaningful sense. We just have an ego need to think we do. :)colkochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03432916690101599393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-77457231842158679172010-11-02T23:29:31.626-06:002010-11-02T23:29:31.626-06:00"Emotion is the focusing energy of creating, ..."Emotion is the focusing energy of creating, but the intellect fills in the details. Words and the intellect which generate them are important."<br /><br />I'll add here that I believe vision and hearing are also the focusing energy of creating. Emotion is connected with what one sees and hears interiorly or exteriorly.<br /><br />For example, before Michaelangelo sculpted the Pieta, I believe it is said that he saw the form in the uncut stone. It must have been an emotional experience to have seen such a vision and then to proceed and bring it to life.<br /><br />As well, Beethoven and Mozart heard parts of the score interiorly and then visualized the piece or score and its direction. Beethoven later went deaf but was so thoroughly immersed into the world of music that he could still hear it in his mind.<br /><br />I look forward to reading your next post Colleen. This one was very enlightening and helpful.butterflyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09684946870144030594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-82952761942596750062010-11-02T20:20:29.933-06:002010-11-02T20:20:29.933-06:00Colleen, I've spent some time thinking and pra...Colleen, I've spent some time thinking and praying about these passages. I agree with you. The passage about sins being loosened and bound in heaven just don't pass the sniff test for me. God lets us tell Him/Her what to do? Can't see that at all. But when you apply the test to yourself, instead of power over other peoples sins, the passage makes sense. Jesus seems to be saying that this world really counts, that you will drag your evil and your holiness with you to that next plane. The church natters on about temporal punishment and indulgences and perfections, but this makes simple sense.<br /><br />Please note that each time I speak for God, I assume She/He is chuckling, somewhat like watching 4-year-olds in a spelling bee. For here and now, that's where God seems to lead me. Nice to have some synergy with you.mjcnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-14946281030161364522010-11-02T10:22:56.624-06:002010-11-02T10:22:56.624-06:00But beyond the delusions of conceptual power, ther...But beyond the delusions of conceptual power, there is a truth. "In the beginning was the word..." Emotion is the focusing energy of creating, but the intellect fills in the details. Words and the intellect which generate them are important.colkochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03432916690101599393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-40072182008638575242010-11-02T09:33:03.849-06:002010-11-02T09:33:03.849-06:00Nice one Colleen.
Once again it shows up the del...Nice one Colleen. <br /><br />Once again it shows up the delusions of cognitive power.<br /><br />BlessingsBlue Eyed Ennishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06181985609681328032noreply@blogger.com