tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post7478178879652124722..comments2023-08-21T03:51:17.425-06:00Comments on Enlightened Catholicism: Thoughts On The Rich Church For The Fewcolkochhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03432916690101599393noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-37665998833725198962014-01-15T21:18:01.328-07:002014-01-15T21:18:01.328-07:00I absolutely refuse to go to any church that's...I absolutely refuse to go to any church that's only for the wealthy and White and privileged-which is why I'm an atheist; mainline Protestantism and Unitarianism and the Quakers are not only 95% Middle/Upper Middle class but even Whiter than the Tea Party and have a higher average age than the Republicans.Stan Themannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-50220771140066867952013-11-18T14:28:04.280-07:002013-11-18T14:28:04.280-07:00Obviously, America is a servant to mammon, can the...Obviously, America is a servant to mammon, can the USCCB and us American<br />'christians' be anything else?Michael Thielnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-79954131606818931812013-11-18T11:36:34.137-07:002013-11-18T11:36:34.137-07:00Colkoch, I'm not familiar with Maine's las...Colkoch, I'm not familiar with Maine's last bishop. Was he anything like Maine's current governor?GoBluenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-65836450311966349562013-11-18T08:59:39.430-07:002013-11-18T08:59:39.430-07:00Thanks so much. You seem at times to assume that P...Thanks so much. You seem at times to assume that Pope Francis is unaware of what the US bishops are really up to. That is very implausible to me and counter to my experience with other hierarchical multinationals<br />.<br />Cardinal Pell in his latest apologia suggests that Francis is up to speed on the Australian scandals, for example. The USA is more powerful and wealthy and likely followed even more closely by Francis and his closest advisors.<br />Sadly, it increasingly appears to me that Francis is well versed in political tactics such as "Good Cop/Bad Cop" and "Bait and Switch".<br />As I indicated on the NCR website, I hope Francis invites you to participate personally at next October's Synod. You would provide good doses of honesty and realism.Gerald Slevinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-6000979566611176912013-11-16T14:06:13.534-07:002013-11-16T14:06:13.534-07:00At the conservative link you provided it is intere...At the conservative link you provided it is interesting how certain words are used and they are like brainwashing code for right wingers. The word that stands out most to my memory is "socialism" and "moral" and "immoral."<br /><br />The last two paragraphs are really pathetic in that it propagandistically ties in their principle notion of defining morality strictly with abortion & same-sex marriage and in such a way that it prioritizes it above all else. That is something that the USCCB tends to do too and it does not appear they are willing to change their obstinate stance. <br /><br />"This being so, what can be said of fiscal and political conservatives that accept, support or even promote planks of the socialist agenda such as abortion or same-sex “marriage?” All genuine conservatives should reject such an aberrant contradiction lest they betray their fundamental principles."<br /><br /><br /><br />Their "principles" are more important to protect than anything else. That these issues are tied in with a "socialist agenda" is tantamount to the speeches that Hitler gave in which he uses code words such as resurrection. <br /><br /><br />It is the special language of "conservatives" that put these issues ahead of all other issues in the mistaken belief that their view of the world and its people is the only view or only "moral" view, even using the Ten Commandments, the founding fathers as reason to rationalize their pathetic and bewildering judgments with such arrogance and ignorance that can only equal the language of Hitler and his henchmen. It is the language of Sarah Palin and the TGOP Party. It is the mind-set of evangelist giving no tip at all to someone who relies on their tips for their income. That truly is a messed up evangelist and it is no wonder that Christianity and/or religion has become code for ignorance rather than true enlightenment.<br /><br /><br />It is a very clever and devious language, to say the least. I love that Bill Maher is able to dissect this language as well and communicate the truth of their intentions and point out their hypocrisy. Bill Maher and many Christians share the view that religion has a history of defeating its own supposed agenda by its hypocritical stances. Conservatives are fearful of seeing that their agenda is full of hatred and hypocrisy rather than towards toward freedom in a true Christian context.Frances Marienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-84291373781553800852013-11-15T21:05:59.497-07:002013-11-15T21:05:59.497-07:00I saw that faux $10 tip that was left by the evang...I saw that faux $10 tip that was left by the evangelical "Christian" this past week and was truly flabbergasted at the sheer madness & selfishness of it.<br /><br /><br />I also saw Bill Maher last week and he is right on in his observations & insight. He sees clearly the hypocrisy of the right wingers & the so-called Christians.<br /><br /><br />Great post, Colleen. You nailed it!<br /><br /><br />I'm off now to watch Bill Maher for my liberal fix of laughter & sanity! :-)ILoveBillMahernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-67655734878466765662013-11-15T12:01:55.665-07:002013-11-15T12:01:55.665-07:00You probably are lucky, or you are being given a r...You probably are lucky, or you are being given a respite to recover from your last one.colkochnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-58970495309415471252013-11-15T11:00:10.625-07:002013-11-15T11:00:10.625-07:00Hummer limos? Really? We in Maine have not had a...Hummer limos? Really? We in Maine have not had a bishop in over a year and I am beginning to feel we are lucky!coolmom007noreply@blogger.com