tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post9092002431156330224..comments2023-08-21T03:51:17.425-06:00Comments on Enlightened Catholicism: colkochhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03432916690101599393noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-38480416562364683952008-12-03T11:56:00.000-07:002008-12-03T11:56:00.000-07:00Anonymous, you really need to work on your facts. ...Anonymous, you really need to work on your facts. <BR/><BR/>The catholic church was created approx 300ad by the council of nicea. Those who say it was created earlier are lying in a pathetic attempt to lend credibility to the doctrine of lies they have fostered on an uneducated laity over the centuries.COL55https://www.blogger.com/profile/07057765287988790129noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-12115721040676664772008-12-02T17:24:00.000-07:002008-12-02T17:24:00.000-07:00In another post on NCR, anonymous wrote:"Pray for ...In another post on NCR, anonymous wrote:<BR/><BR/>"Pray for all directly involved (the magisterial authorities). That they may be attentive to the promptings of our Lord the Holy Spirit." <BR/><BR/>Anonymous is correct that we should pray, however, he is incorrect about how and what we should pray for the leadership.<BR/><BR/>The majority of the bishops have chosen to reject christ and christ's teachings. They have chosen to reject the truth that Jesus taught. They have chosen to serve their own false gods over the One True God. Their actions are well documentated and public record now. More are surfacing every day.<BR/><BR/>They know the truth, they have been trained in the scriptures, and in spite of that training and knowledge, they have consistently chosen to reject the truth of Jesus for their own personal agendas and their own personal gain. They have chosen ruby slippers and tiaras over the pastoral needs of their flocks. They have chosen personal power over integrity. They have chosen to deceive the laity instead of teach and live the truth. Not once, but multitudes of times. <BR/><BR/>They are not repentant. They continue to repeat the same behaviors in ever increasing frequency. They are the educated, they are the ones who were entrusted with the deposit of truth, they are the ones who know the truth that is revealed in the scriptures. <BR/><BR/>As I was reading the other posts in that article it occurred to me that there is no longer any hope of repentance for them in this lifetime. Nor is there any hope for anonymous and those who so adamantly support and defend these bishops. <BR/><BR/>Their acts and actions are the unpardonable sin that Jesus spoke of. <BR/><BR/>While all things are possible with God, God also gives free will. These bishops have chosen to exercise their free will and turn away from the One True God in order to serve their false gods. As a result, they have chosen to commit the unpardonable sin.<BR/><BR/>Ironically, the punishment they have so freely inflicted on others who disagreed with them, they now inadvertantly inflict on themselves as well: <BR/><BR/>they have self excommunicated themselves from communion with Christ.COL55https://www.blogger.com/profile/07057765287988790129noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-21941929504023927602008-12-02T10:28:00.000-07:002008-12-02T10:28:00.000-07:00Here's a thought for you friend anonnymous. With ...Here's a thought for you friend anonnymous. With in the first 35 years of the Church there was a very definite and strong disagreement between the Hellenists and Jerusalem based Christians. This eventually played out between Paul and his Law Free Church and the fathers at Jerusalem. <BR/><BR/>Paul believed it wasn't necessary to follow OT Jewish laws and regulations to belong in the family of Christ and partake in the Salvation He offers. James and Peter had distinctly different ideas. The two groups disagreed strongly.<BR/><BR/>Eventually Paul either won, or went on as if he had won this battle and gentiles did not have to endure circumcision or follow the entirety of the Leviticus code.<BR/><BR/>Nothing has changed much in the intervening millenia. We still argue about rules, regulations, and dogmas, and Jesus still has the final say. In my book, understanding that is enlightened and that IS traditional Catholicism.<BR/><BR/>I see very little in the St. Mary's situation in which they are violating the spirit of any law, rule or dogma. The whole power of prayer of any sort is in the intent not the words.colkochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03432916690101599393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-26604693799820157272008-12-02T09:42:00.000-07:002008-12-02T09:42:00.000-07:00I don't understand your support for this. I really...I don't understand your support for this. I really don't know what to say.<BR/><BR/>But friend God is in control of the Church. He has led the Church to organically develop until today. The dogmas of the Church cannot change and never will change.<BR/>This parish, which you hold in such high esteem, has numerous problems. Even if the parish, as you say, is vibrant and has numerous people going I pose the question "is it worth it?"<BR/>What are they actually worshipping? The same God as the one in the Bible?<BR/><BR/>So far I have heard the following of them:<BR/>1) One of the priests there says that Jesus is not God.<BR/>2) changing the baptismal prayers to make the holy sacrament of baptism invalid.<BR/>3) changing the Eucharist prayer to make the consecration invalid.<BR/>4) having Buddhist statues on the alter. Buddhism is not a true religion. Catholicism is the religion God placed upon the earth to guide people to him. Other religions are mans way of trying to find God. Not the other way around like Catholicism.<BR/><BR/> This is the main problem I have with modernist Catholics. You really do think you are more Catholic than the pope. God speaks to you...but not the evil hierarchy. <BR/><BR/>COL55...as for the outated 2,000 year old rhetoric...the Catholic Church was created by God 2,000 yeras ago. If people are not listening to the rhetoric it is not because the rhetoric is no longer relevant for today. What the Church teaches will ALWAYS remain relevant for those who have ears to listen and eyes to see.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Even the name "enlightened Catholicism" sounds terribly arrogant. Enlightened by what?<BR/><BR/>Praise God and thankyou for listening.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-39558057403698107152008-12-02T05:39:00.000-07:002008-12-02T05:39:00.000-07:00I don't know that they are exactly out of step. T...I don't know that they are exactly out of step. They are part of a definite tradition with in Catholicism, such as the original Franciscan idea, which is no longer in vogue with the Vatican.<BR/><BR/>One of the problems I have with Benedict is he talks a very developed both/and theology and then excommunicates anyone who actually practices it.<BR/><BR/>Carl: The times they are a gettin' interesting. I love the internet. Information is no longer under the control of anyone and like minded people are finding like minded people all over the world. Who knows what may eventually happen.colkochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03432916690101599393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-86076683618729835302008-12-02T03:03:00.000-07:002008-12-02T03:03:00.000-07:00How can a group be in communion with the Catholic ...How can a group be in communion with the Catholic Church yet reject what the church teaches?<BR/><BR/>They need to get some good orthodox priests in there to teach the faith.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-25770789392933578962008-12-01T20:00:00.000-07:002008-12-01T20:00:00.000-07:00More good news. It lifts my heart every time I se...More good news. It lifts my heart every time I see another person or group take a stand for something higher and greater than the 2000 year old rhetoric that is obviously no longer working. <BR/><BR/>Your comment about opus die and money in my opinion is dead on. <BR/><BR/>The world is changing, and it feels like the changes are happening faster and faster.COL55https://www.blogger.com/profile/07057765287988790129noreply@blogger.com