tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post1462365396243348443..comments2023-08-21T03:51:17.425-06:00Comments on Enlightened Catholicism: USCCB Meeting Perfectly Demonstrates Pyramid Power--Or Something Elsecolkochhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03432916690101599393noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-77765645792393940782009-11-18T09:04:16.871-07:002009-11-18T09:04:16.871-07:00Yes, forgetful!!! :-)Yes, forgetful!!! :-)wild hairhttp://www.wildhair95.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-39039302276491575462009-11-18T08:27:35.943-07:002009-11-18T08:27:35.943-07:00Wildhair, from what I've seen reality is not a...Wildhair, from what I've seen reality is not an operative issue for the USCCB. Denial and delusion are more real for them than reality.<br /><br />Cardinal George is very good at being a cardinal in today's church. Which says very little for his priesthood. Personally he would not be high on my list as a person to buy a used car from. He's way too political--and apparently forgetful. :)colkochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03432916690101599393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-65920585880702961772009-11-18T06:25:28.028-07:002009-11-18T06:25:28.028-07:00When Cardinal George leads the American bishops be...When Cardinal George leads the American bishops behind closed doors this afternoon to, in his words, love Notre Dame, the National Catholic Reporter, and some of us back into uniformity with what the bishops think, he will do so by ignoring reality and some other principles that exist for Catholics. He will have to ignore the reality that universities and even Catholic universities like Notre Dame exist for research and the free exchange of ideas in the search for truth. The same can be said for Catholic newspapers like the National Catholic Reporter. Good newspapers exist to uncover the facts in the search for truth. And finally Cardinal George will have to ignore or make light of the fact of the right of individual conscience in the pursuit of truth.<br /><br />Cardinal George might talk of love, but does not seem to know much about love. What he does seem to know a lot about is uniformity and control. I am sure Cardinal George is a very smart man. He is also slick when he tries to couch the closed door session in terms of love. Here he is more like a used car salesman than a pastoral leader.<br /><br />Actually, this closed executive session may be good for the bishops to talk to one another. They will come from the meeting and say there was a good exchange among them. They will feel good. The Catholic Church on the other hand will not benefit. A better use of those three hours would have been to invite the president of Notre Dame and perhaps several other presidents of Catholic universities to talk with them. A better use of the time would have been to invite the editor of the National Catholic Reporter and several other editors of independent Catholic newspapers to talk with them. A better use of the time would have been to invite a group of Catholic bloggers to talk with them. It will not happen, not with this crowd of bishops. They are about control, not love, even if that is what Cardinal George says the meeting is all about.wild hairhttp://www.wildhair95.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-60813936838054538422009-11-18T05:37:45.461-07:002009-11-18T05:37:45.461-07:00Wow, Chaput must be as desparate for the red hat a...Wow, Chaput must be as desparate for the red hat and Neiderauer is to retire.<br /><br />Good bye Vatican II, hello more tyranny.colkochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03432916690101599393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-91452221645814690892009-11-17T21:58:34.346-07:002009-11-17T21:58:34.346-07:00Seems like the Bishops are trying to push Universi...Seems like the Bishops are trying to push Universities to decide weather to remain Universities where truth is pursued or weather to become catechetical centers. It looks like it only gets worse with more cultish behavior from this "leadership." Wonder how long it will take the Church to recover from the long reign of a charismatic leader that lead the Church toward the 13th century and a Papa Ratzi (thank you for the term Bill) who believes in his own delusion - that he and only he has the knowledge and authority to lead the Church.rdp46https://www.blogger.com/profile/04427786268228285222noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-8560519493533450162009-11-17T20:32:11.108-07:002009-11-17T20:32:11.108-07:00A friend reports: "Trautman asked George why ...A friend reports: "Trautman asked George why he had authorized Canizares to modify the antiphons without the Conference's approval, and George replied that he did not remember having replied to Canizares' letter but - I quote - "if the letter has my signature I must have signed it". They laughed but it was really embarassing. George lost much of his credibility (Chaput asked a canon lawyer to come up with a provision authorizing the conference to give Rome the power to decide what the Conference should decide - basically creating a ordinary law that repeals Sacrosanctum Concilium...) I saw it and I could not believe my ears."Joehttp://josephsoleary.typepad.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-34210457336295479252009-11-17T18:30:54.987-07:002009-11-17T18:30:54.987-07:00Poor George Niederauer.
He probably thought his...Poor George Niederauer. <br /> <br />He probably thought his assignment to San Francisco would be like in SLC --- tea with the 12 Apostles and lots of lay-back time. <br /><br />Wrong, wrong, wrong!<br /><br />He turns 75 June 14, 2011 and I know a couple of folks here in SF who know him. He wants to retire so badly that every time he talks about it he almost wets himself.<br /><br />BTW, 3 of the members of the SF Archdiocesan Catholic Charities Board are openly lesbian and gay. 2 of them are members of my parish!<br /><br />Jim McCreaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-50236067375544250842009-11-17T17:44:13.543-07:002009-11-17T17:44:13.543-07:00As an educational resource, as the bishops rebrand...As an educational resource, as the bishops rebrand the church as a gay-free zone, I'd love to have them watch a few of Peterson Toscano's educational videos, like this one on ex-gay ministry: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFT40QrFyKsWilliam D. Lindseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07246026074693891965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-50212037375547594852009-11-17T14:36:52.223-07:002009-11-17T14:36:52.223-07:00coolmom:
You're giving me an idea. A blog ca...coolmom:<br /><br />You're giving me an idea. A blog called "<i>Less Than Fully Catholic</i>": A refuge from doctrinal persecution. <br /><br />A parody site: Like a coalition of "less than fully catholic bloggers" - possibly also offering a 12-step program. For bishops who are willing to admit <i>they are powerless</i>. (Any servant leaders who want to finally turn their life over to God; and commit to a program to turn the church over to the grassroots laity = the People of God.)<br /><br />I'm sure we could do it in 12 steps. One Apostle at a time.<br /><br />If we don't joke about this, we may lose our minds. ;0TheraPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17684120043427738135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-88385922074048444372009-11-17T13:30:11.630-07:002009-11-17T13:30:11.630-07:00Anon, if that's the case, maybe I can get Bish...Anon, if that's the case, maybe I can get Bishop Tom Gumbleton to approve this one. Before Cardinal George gets him excommunicated that is.<br /><br />coolmom, maybe I'll just change to title to "Not For The Completely Catholic"colkochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03432916690101599393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-58531613873525423032009-11-17T13:17:40.980-07:002009-11-17T13:17:40.980-07:00Obviously, all blogs relating to Catholicism muust...Obviously, all blogs relating to Catholicism muust be approved by a bishop before being put on the 'Net.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-21621380012447803422009-11-17T13:00:48.262-07:002009-11-17T13:00:48.262-07:00Well the NCR becomes NLTFCR- and this blog becomes...Well the NCR becomes NLTFCR- and this blog becomes Enlightened LTFC--that is "Less than fully Catholic". Maybe we just need to embrace the reality that we don't want to be fully part of this.coolmomnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-74247814497642977152009-11-17T12:59:08.306-07:002009-11-17T12:59:08.306-07:00And, yes I am in communion, but not on the same le...And, yes I am in communion, but not on the same level Cardinal George seems to be demanding.colkochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03432916690101599393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-64738943844697684752009-11-17T12:58:36.018-07:002009-11-17T12:58:36.018-07:00The investigation into me will not be funded by me...The investigation into me will not be funded by me. I am very very specific about who I donate money too. LOL.colkochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03432916690101599393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-84636158290909248572009-11-17T11:58:10.321-07:002009-11-17T11:58:10.321-07:00Oops! Your blog name! Has "Catholicism"...Oops! Your blog name! Has "Catholicism" in it. A blog is a kind of media. <br /><br /><i>Are you truly in Communion here?</i><br /><br />You know, of course, that the investigation into this will be funded by YOU!TheraPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17684120043427738135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-85977593170679412452009-11-17T10:56:57.224-07:002009-11-17T10:56:57.224-07:00No time to read this now, but pursue this link:
h...No time to read this now, but pursue this link:<br /><br />http://frjakestopstheworld.blogspot.com/2009/11/uganda-world-prayer-day.html<br /><br />"Uganda World Prayer Day" - re the law that would make homosexual activity punishable by death!!!!<br /><br /><b>All Christians should unite in protesting this proposed law.</b>TheraPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17684120043427738135noreply@blogger.com