tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post1575671962754432487..comments2023-08-21T03:51:17.425-06:00Comments on Enlightened Catholicism: USCCB Takes On The Smell Of The Elephantscolkochhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03432916690101599393noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-91026480020715312052013-10-16T10:38:26.902-06:002013-10-16T10:38:26.902-06:00I'm not a myth liver. In fact, I'd be har...I'm not a myth liver. In fact, I'd be hard pressed to think of the stories I liked to listen to as a kid.<br /> If "dialogue" means simply "You and I talk until you come to be enlightened enough to agree with me", then "dialogue" is conversion/missionary work by another name: no thanks. And I mean that for the Bishops who still miss Pius XII as well as those who want to make Joan Chittister pope. It's the idea of living without being to provide reasons for what you believe and trying to get other people to do what you want without having to provide reasons and then claiming "But I want dialogue and tolerance-can't you see that? Why are you being hateful and mean-spirited?"<br /> The self-congratulation of the "Progressives" is matched by the self-pity of the "Traddies"; you both deserve each other.George Waitenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-92233058394027361222013-10-16T10:36:26.094-06:002013-10-16T10:36:26.094-06:00Moral authority from the Bishops?
Please.
They los...Moral authority from the Bishops?<br />Please.<br />They lost the right to be our moral arbiters when they allowed children to be sexually abused by priests and did nothing. Nothing.<br /><br /><br />Where does the IRS weigh in on this? The Catholic church is inserting itself in government debates.<br />Fine if they want to do this, but why should tax payers continue to give them tax exempt status?mgardenernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-20193277405728709972013-10-14T18:06:44.719-06:002013-10-14T18:06:44.719-06:00Not at all obsessed George. I think it better tha...Not at all obsessed George. I think it better that people pull away from the ordained priesthood and use only the priesthood of baptism. You can use the myths that you live by, I certainly am not stopping you.rdp46noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-15141642900971628412013-10-14T10:01:20.971-06:002013-10-14T10:01:20.971-06:00Which "Catholic Dogma"?
See, that's ...Which "Catholic Dogma"?<br />See, that's the problem: both you and the "traddies" are obsessed with the idea that if you just get the right Pope/Bishop, you're church will become the perfect auxiliary/ideological motor to whatever political/economic project it is that you're peddling.<br />Why should those of us in the non-religious group take what either group says seriously? It's all based on "Believe this or Jesus will cry!".George Waitenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-39124220656622536932013-10-14T01:27:08.899-06:002013-10-14T01:27:08.899-06:00The "Nuns on the Bus" have a lot of cred...The "Nuns on the Bus" have a lot of credit in my book, but you could really sign me Doubting Thomas about catholic dogma. I think we all have our own myths. For some it is Religion, for others it is Star Trek or Star Wars, for some it is science and for a few is that myths are not a good thing at all.rdp46noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-63848947205979337192013-10-13T11:08:19.264-06:002013-10-13T11:08:19.264-06:00Neither the bishops nor the "Nuns on the Bus&...Neither the bishops nor the "Nuns on the Bus" have any credibility except with those who are emotionally dependent on believing.<br />Pathetic that adults need to believe something to get through their day.George Waitenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-70415582854240168132013-10-11T21:37:20.216-06:002013-10-11T21:37:20.216-06:00Wow, you nailed it!Wow, you nailed it!khughes1963noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-61763695584212582452013-10-11T14:10:52.617-06:002013-10-11T14:10:52.617-06:00This
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The Catholic bishops of the United Sta...This<br /><br />quote<br />The Catholic bishops of the United States stand ready to work with leaders of both parties<br />unquote<br /><br /><br />My response: Tax 'em. They want to play at politics, they need to pay the dues. They can pay taxes just like I do. I'm not arguing against their rights to congregate and speak as they please. But if they want to write legislation as an organization, they need to be paying for the privilege in TAXES. And I'm not singling them out - I feel the same about any group of people that enjoys certain protections from the law. And oh, they aren't writing the legislation? Well then just exactly what do they expect to hand over to the politicians? Voters with votes to cast? They are presuming too much here. They have no authority to tell or even to merely coach me how to cast my ballot. And it is getting pretty darn clear that I'm not the only lay Catholic who feel this way.<br /><br /><br />I agree Colleen. Nausea and indigestion - right after a late lunch.tpel_91noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-63603717641263080782013-10-10T21:57:52.125-06:002013-10-10T21:57:52.125-06:00"The bishops have been urging Congress to ena..."The bishops have been urging Congress to enact legislation like the Health Care Conscience Rights Act for two and a half years."<br /><br /><br /><br />The USCCB has been fighting on this instead of focusing on the Gospels & helping the poor.<br /><br /><br /> The USCCB is for their selfish & predatory conscience rights, which is not the conscience of the majority of women and steals & tramples on the human rights of others and denies their conscience rights.<br /><br /><br />And while the USCCB has been promoting the conscience rights of the wealthiest in the health care insurance industry to profit from their anti-women stances the USCCB has not been addressing their own governing issues. <br /><br /><br />Great blog, Colleen!GodHelpUsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-88513317389406204392013-10-10T21:05:28.289-06:002013-10-10T21:05:28.289-06:00This USCCB statement is a sick joke to any thinkin...This USCCB statement is a sick joke to any thinking, living, breathing human being who has eyes to see & ears to hear. We've been watching carefully & listening to the USCCB's anti-Christian, anti-human rights, anti-women, anti-health care, anti-Obama fascist drum roll and watched them march lock-step siding, aiding and abetting right along with the extreme rightwing T-Party reactionary Barabbas-type evangelical fanatics for many years now. <br /><br /><br />They've been on the same sort of immoral course in our national politics as any right-wing supporters of Hitler that lived during the time of the end of the Weimar Republic. Right wingers still deny the Catholic's in leadership during that time in the Centre Party had anything to do with Hitler coming into power. Some to this day even deny the Holocaust occurred, such as the SSPX, that X-PBXVI brought back into the Church with welcome & open arms!! More the Bishops in the US have lost their credibility & moral authority.<br /><br /><br />Even with all the evidence and witnesses they deny, deny, deny there was a holocaust! Just as Sister Mary Ann Walsh denies reality in her USCCB parrot statement. The Centre Party's leader in Germany was a priest, name escapes me, who became a politician & was a buddy to Pacelli who became the next Pope & they helped to establish Hitler's Party into leadership & gave them credibility. So too here, we have the USCCB giving credibility to extremists on the right. <br /><br /><br />The USCCB needs to get out of politics. The USCCB clearly are delusional with this statement.Frannynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-59711337403440806192013-10-10T19:05:16.588-06:002013-10-10T19:05:16.588-06:00Do the bishops really think they have any moral au...Do the bishops really think they have any moral authority left? Apparently they are the same as the local elites trying to hang onto their decaying power through the Tea Party. So much for following Jesus's example!khughes1963noreply@blogger.com