tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post2554214970018017930..comments2023-08-21T03:51:17.425-06:00Comments on Enlightened Catholicism: The Arc Of Justice Has Curved Through Michigancolkochhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03432916690101599393noreply@blogger.comBlogger128125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-84722774816556035872014-03-28T12:45:59.482-06:002014-03-28T12:45:59.482-06:00Look. Why can't you just accept that I know wh...Look. Why can't you just accept that I know what I'm talking about?Invictus_88http://fora.tv/myfora/9668/Invictus_88noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-57869087620641398382014-03-28T12:42:59.069-06:002014-03-28T12:42:59.069-06:00Your second paragraph is just weird waffle, so I&#...Your second paragraph is just weird waffle, so I'll stick to the first which is pertinent. <br /><br />You're repeating your baseless claim that modern knowledge invalidates Church teaching. I have asked you for evidence, but as yet we've seen nothing.Invictus_88http://fora.tv/myfora/9668/Invictus_88noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-41219420352853322232014-03-28T12:33:55.272-06:002014-03-28T12:33:55.272-06:00Unam Sanctam is not incorrect, and certainly canno...Unam Sanctam is not incorrect, and certainly cannot be incorrect on your beloved scientific grounds.<br />So, you've still yet to show me a firm example of the Church teaching error.<br /><br />In contrast, I've shown beyond doubt that you reject the authoritative interpretation of the Church, the Doctors, and The Apostolic Fathers to put forward your own personal and disconnected one.Invictus_88http://fora.tv/myfora/9668/Invictus_88noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-12174531500284451762014-03-28T11:27:04.965-06:002014-03-28T11:27:04.965-06:00You don't seem to understand. I do not define ...You don't seem to understand. I do not define these things. These things are already defined.Invictus_88http://fora.tv/myfora/9668/Invictus_88noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-76714649281649685192014-03-28T11:20:02.531-06:002014-03-28T11:20:02.531-06:00You don't seem to understand. I do not define ...You don't seem to understand. I do not define these things. These things are already defined.Invictus_88http://fora.tv/myfora/9668/Invictus_88noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-14676416810013026992014-03-28T11:06:27.261-06:002014-03-28T11:06:27.261-06:00That's pretty cool. How recent was that?That's pretty cool. How recent was that?Invictus_88http://fora.tv/myfora/9668/Invictus_88noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-5860090530652638642014-03-28T11:02:59.867-06:002014-03-28T11:02:59.867-06:00Why do you have a problem with his theology then? ...Why do you have a problem with his theology then? 'God is Near Us' is beautiful!Invictus_88http://fora.tv/myfora/9668/Invictus_88noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-58145373989729631992014-03-28T10:31:28.577-06:002014-03-28T10:31:28.577-06:00Invictus, you'd rather accuse me of lying than...Invictus, you'd rather accuse me of lying than admit to what is right in front of you.Matt Connollynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-48824754212247842762014-03-28T09:47:01.344-06:002014-03-28T09:47:01.344-06:00What. The liberals are breaking out the AGEISM now...What. The liberals are breaking out the AGEISM now? Wicked sick yo.Invictus_88http://fora.tv/myfora/9668/Invictus_88noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-91024893366760040872014-03-28T09:44:02.688-06:002014-03-28T09:44:02.688-06:00The Church does not advocate that. You are libelli...The Church does not advocate that. You are libelling the Church on the basis of nothing.Invictus_88http://fora.tv/myfora/9668/Invictus_88noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-69869268769714989062014-03-28T09:25:59.826-06:002014-03-28T09:25:59.826-06:00Exactly tpel. One does not get to high stress lev...Exactly tpel. One does not get to high stress levels by poring on the peace, love, and joy.colkochnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-30697627769950594552014-03-28T08:08:42.685-06:002014-03-28T08:08:42.685-06:00And don't forget what life is like in the serv...And don't forget what life is like in the service academies. You just can't get to the high-stress part without invoking enough fear.tpel_91noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-2922537269555787782014-03-28T08:06:29.787-06:002014-03-28T08:06:29.787-06:00Been reading ROTC manuals, have you?Been reading ROTC manuals, have you?tpel_91noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-812240108883618892014-03-28T06:24:26.526-06:002014-03-28T06:24:26.526-06:00Sure, my interpretation is damaging to the 'au...Sure, my interpretation is damaging to the 'authority' of the teaching magisterium but it also leaves room for advancement in knowledge to further the teachings. What damages the authority of the teaching magisterium even more is the belief our current knowledge base has no bearing on past teachings. <br /><br /><br /><br />That is not just arrogant, it is the Achilles heel of the magisterium. When it comes to gender roles and sexual morality it is driving the millennial generation into the 'spiritual but not religious' category. In less than 30 years the same exodus out the doors that is now happening in the West and Latin American will be happening in Africa and the Orient.colkochnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-8407617920140640442014-03-28T05:54:14.638-06:002014-03-28T05:54:14.638-06:00I am above averagely chilled out about people disa...I am above averagely chilled out about people disagreeing with my take on things. Tea vs coffee. Political parties. Best holiday destinations. Happy to have a good chat, weigh up pros and cons etc.<br /><br />Catholic teaching is not opinion though, it is established. When people get it wrong, it is right to point out and correct in charity.Invictus_88http://fora.tv/myfora/9668/Invictus_88noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-64974486429060210532014-03-28T05:50:51.226-06:002014-03-28T05:50:51.226-06:00So when Boniface VIII gives us Unam Sanctam in 130...So when Boniface VIII gives us Unam Sanctam in 1302, he interprets the story of Jesus telling Peter to put down his sword during the arrest at Gethsemane. Boniface describes the "two sword" theory. He says the story means that the church wields the spiritual sword, while kings and generals wield the temporal sword for the church, and that Jesus sanctions all this sword wielding with these statements.<br /><br /><br />Do you believe this? Who were the arrogant Catholics who damaged the words of the papacy? The interpretation lived for centuries. How could it be incorrect? How could it change? Is the change an attack on the church, or a defense of it?<br /><br /><br />Slavery. Democracy. Soldiering. The Jewish people. Crusades. Scientific findings vs. the biblical story. The existence of Adam and Eve. The flood. (Off the top of my head)<br /><br /><br />From which part of the cafeteria would you like to be served?Matt Connollynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-37350735538321092942014-03-28T04:17:14.094-06:002014-03-28T04:17:14.094-06:00You're repeating the same error.
You're r...You're repeating the same error.<br /><br />You're rejecting the authoritative interpretation of the Church, the Doctors, and The Apostolic Fathers to put forward your own.<br /><br />You surely see how damaging.that can be, and how arrogant it is.Invictus_88http://fora.tv/myfora/9668/Invictus_88noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-77327682603764350162014-03-27T21:13:09.391-06:002014-03-27T21:13:09.391-06:00You seem to warn anyone that disagrees with your t...You seem to warn anyone that disagrees with your take on things. That seems a bit arrogant to me.rdp46noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-60000406586503357532014-03-27T19:12:42.893-06:002014-03-27T19:12:42.893-06:00I take my time, but I get there in the end. Great ...I take my time, but I get there in the end. Great post Colleen.Conrad J. Nollnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-8546914589567408362014-03-27T19:01:10.461-06:002014-03-27T19:01:10.461-06:00Thank you Colleen. At the time Albino Luciani died...Thank you Colleen. At the time Albino Luciani died I felt a great loss, but I never really understood why. <br /><br />The more I learn about the man the more I realize what was lost with his untimely death/homocide.Conrad J. Nollnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-12593573456344570862014-03-27T17:50:25.961-06:002014-03-27T17:50:25.961-06:00Uhmmm, I didn't claim the Holy Spirit gave me ...Uhmmm, I didn't claim the Holy Spirit gave me this insight. Nor did I claim my particular insight was hidden from the Apostolic Fathers or Doctors of the Church. What I alluded too was it was certainly in their best interests to interpret said passage as they have, as all about them and their 'bad selves'.<br /><br />It seems to me you have a need to see their interpretation as TRUTH because then it may one day apply to you and your 'bad self'. Personally, I think it's all self justifying blather from men who would rather quote each other than do the hard work of bringing forth the Kingdom.colkochnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-40944850144945585022014-03-27T15:00:06.349-06:002014-03-27T15:00:06.349-06:00I don't claim that at all. Stop condemning me...I don't claim that at all. Stop condemning me. It is not good for your soul. I remain hopeful in the Lord, for you as well as for me. But yes, it seems like slow work.Matt Connollynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-49239915934165762442014-03-27T14:56:48.558-06:002014-03-27T14:56:48.558-06:00Yes your ideas seem to spring from the zealotry of...Yes your ideas seem to spring from the zealotry of a Catholic cult. You can not be wrong because you have defined them as the One truth. Too bad, it is all a bunch of mumbo jumbo...rdp46noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-27662655887672713762014-03-27T14:51:12.925-06:002014-03-27T14:51:12.925-06:00I have spent my whole life in academics and have h...I have spent my whole life in academics and have had close contact with even some current seminarians, and yes I have read Ratzinger. Have you read Einstein or Bion?rdp46noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-23470432640075282162014-03-27T14:50:30.957-06:002014-03-27T14:50:30.957-06:00So you claim that the Holy Spirit has given You an...So you claim that the Holy Spirit has given You an insight which has been hidden from the Church, the Apostolic Fathers, and the Doctors of the Church..<br />HAHAHA! <br /><br />I think we have accidentally struck upon the tragicomic essense of heresiarchs from 2Peter 2:1 through Martin Luther to Leonard Feeney.<br /><br />Hopeless.Invictus_88http://fora.tv/myfora/9668/Invictus_88noreply@blogger.com