tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post3834059740950885752..comments2023-08-21T03:51:17.425-06:00Comments on Enlightened Catholicism: Rosemary Radford Ruether Loses To The Catholic Anonymous Donorcolkochhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03432916690101599393noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-73203157511672390892008-08-21T08:58:00.000-06:002008-08-21T08:58:00.000-06:00Convey your support that the University of San Die...Convey your support that the University of San Diego has made the correct choice in denying Ruether this prestigious teaching position.<BR/><BR/>Sign the petition at http://www.brianmcdaniel.org/?page_id=662Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-1218902602116338152008-07-24T19:58:00.000-06:002008-07-24T19:58:00.000-06:00Bill, I just burst out laughing big time. PRADA i...Bill, I just burst out laughing big time. PRADA is so appropos, or however you spell appropos.colkochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03432916690101599393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-50767163558233053692008-07-24T14:07:00.000-06:002008-07-24T14:07:00.000-06:00Carl, I love your list. I do have one other abbre...Carl, I love your list. I do have one other abbreviation:<BR/><BR/>PRADA: Pope Rails Against Divisive Anglicans<BR/><BR/>:-),<BR/><BR/>BillWilliam D. Lindseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07246026074693891965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-91866194885831856442008-07-23T18:29:00.000-06:002008-07-23T18:29:00.000-06:00Carl, I think this would be true only after they r...Carl, I think this would be true only after they realized their serious attemps at SAUCE cost them all thier financial sauce as we took our money and ran.colkochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03432916690101599393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-50268812966687378482008-07-23T13:22:00.000-06:002008-07-23T13:22:00.000-06:00Colleen, that wouldnt be a bad outcome, but couldn...Colleen, that wouldnt be a bad outcome, but couldnt the LiP keep the BS, I've always enjoyed good BS.<BR/><BR/>The only difficulty I see in this solution is that the inherency of the FO-menting DeF is the sel-fright-eousness of the OTC DepoFai, they probably wouldnt be satisfied with Ex-ing the LiP, they would most likely go to great lenghts to attempt to save our souls from eternal damnation (SOSed = prounced "sauced")COL55https://www.blogger.com/profile/07057765287988790129noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-49164647878464245742008-07-22T20:24:00.000-06:002008-07-22T20:24:00.000-06:00Actually Carl I expect the shism to be more along ...Actually Carl I expect the shism to be more along the lines of Episcopal Catholic and Roman Catholic. I think that's the whole process being worked out amongst the Anglicans and the Vatican. A sort of we'll take all your Def if you take all our Lip.<BR/><BR/>The Def will get to be Def in Latin, with smells, and bells, and the Lip will work on an inclusive love centered community.colkochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03432916690101599393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-19769625032458419722008-07-22T14:48:00.000-06:002008-07-22T14:48:00.000-06:00William, in order to assist us in being more effec...William, in order to assist us in being more effective in giving LiP Service, I have begun a list of abbreviations that I hope to find an appropriate venue on NCR to bring them up. The abbreviations are as follows:<BR/><BR/>FO - faithful orthodox<BR/>LiP - liberal protestants<BR/>DeF - defending the faith<BR/>OTCh - (pronounced ouch) one true church<BR/>WoPr - women priests<BR/>ExWoPr - excomm'd women priests<BR/>FO-mentation - annoying habit of FO's to qoute catechisms to support their positions<BR/>LiP Service - annoying habit of LiP's to quote the scriptural teachings of Jesus to support their positions<BR/>Catoganon - (CATechism, dOGma, cANON) - the instrument that FO's use to attempt to "whip" LiP's into obedience to authority<BR/>DepoFai - deposit of faith (wonder what depo fai means in italian/ latin?)<BR/><BR/>Anyone think of any others?COL55https://www.blogger.com/profile/07057765287988790129noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-34356970081109547692008-07-22T14:24:00.000-06:002008-07-22T14:24:00.000-06:00Carl, I'm traveling and have had sporadic internet...Carl, I'm traveling and have had sporadic internet access. Am just now seeing your comment as I log on in an airport.<BR/><BR/>You have now given me a name for my mission in life: to offer LiP to those in need of it! I am forthwith declaring myself a faithful member of the Order of LiP.<BR/><BR/>W.D. Lindsey, LiP<BR/>:-)William D. Lindseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07246026074693891965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-15893656424799057142008-07-22T14:13:00.000-06:002008-07-22T14:13:00.000-06:00Carl,I absolutely agree. It will be interesting to...Carl,<BR/>I absolutely agree. It will be interesting to see how that actually works out logistically.......if the hierarchy continues to control the $$$$...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-10462633530287349872008-07-22T11:47:00.000-06:002008-07-22T11:47:00.000-06:00Margie:I expect to see a major schism within the n...Margie:<BR/><BR/>I expect to see a major schism within the next 3 years that will create two churches, a roman and an american. How it will unfold, what it will look like? Simplictically: It will probably seperate along the same lines we see on NCR today, a rift that will create an FO church and a church of the LiP. The FO church will continue with the exclusive OTC mentality, with the same legalistic fundamentalism we see today, employing fear to elicit unquestioning obedience to the heirachy. The LiP church will employ a gentler, more loving format that emphasizes the principles of divine love, unity, harmony and will be more of an inclusive interfaith expression.COL55https://www.blogger.com/profile/07057765287988790129noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-18223463211926622912008-07-22T06:46:00.000-06:002008-07-22T06:46:00.000-06:00"They have mortgaged the future of the church to a..."They have mortgaged the future of the church to a clerical system--their system, the one that protects their power and privilege."<BR/>Bill, they allowed the church to suffer a schism because they insisted on the primacy of the Roman pope......they allowed a second schism 500 years later because they would not come to the table and diaglogue with Martin Luther....it is now 500 years after that.......any guesses and what direction they will choose????Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-75837357835256846702008-07-22T06:38:00.000-06:002008-07-22T06:38:00.000-06:00Carl, you just made my whole morning Lipping off l...Carl, you just made my whole morning Lipping off like you did. I'd give this a try on the NCR, even if Dennis Coday edits it out he'd certainly appreciate the humor.<BR/><BR/>Bill, I wondered about why so much power given to one donor, unless that donor is the diocese and the bishop actually axed this appointment. I guess we'll never know. I sometimes go to the Catholic Answers website just to give some Lip to the Def. It's fun.<BR/><BR/>Butterfly, Ruether does rhyme with Luther.colkochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03432916690101599393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-74953981801718675862008-07-21T19:46:00.000-06:002008-07-21T19:46:00.000-06:00What is with the men in the hierarchy and their ab...What is with the men in the hierarchy and their ability to belittle women like Ruether and Lear and then believe themselves to be Holy for the entire Church, and a bunch of sheep who follow what they say like mindless robots? Such hypocrisy was meant for Pharisees. They are doing a good rendition of them. <BR/><BR/>Does Reuther rhyme with Luther by any chance? I agree with your view Colleen "The parallels between the early 16th century reformer's clashes with the Vatican and our current times, are uncanny." <BR/><BR/>They are heavily invested now in the blame game. The blame for all of the world's problems is put on people who don't buy their hypocrisy, spiritual immaturity and backwardness.butterflyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09684946870144030594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-59327328220587216862008-07-21T17:28:00.000-06:002008-07-21T17:28:00.000-06:00"Who'd have thought we'd sink to such levels of st..."Who'd have thought we'd sink to such levels of stupidity and banality"<BR/><BR/>William, these are are the noxious rantings of those who take pride in their self appointed authority as "faithful orthodox" (hereafter refered to as "FO's") defending the faith (hereafter referred to as "DeF"). The FO's have always been this way, and probably always will be. That is why they are FO's. That is why they are DeF against reason and logic.<BR/><BR/>Those of us who dont follow the "FO" protocals are considered by the FO's to be "liberal protestants" (hereafter referred to as "LiP"). <BR/><BR/>It is our divine mission to give LiP to the FO's, who are also DeF, on the slim chance that some of our LiP will work its way through their monolithic DeF mentality and inspire them to give up their FO mentation in order to experience a conversion that will ultimately lead to their salvation.<BR/><BR/>(Do you think NCR would censor the abbreviations if I used them in a response?)COL55https://www.blogger.com/profile/07057765287988790129noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-2789542964153790872008-07-21T16:40:00.000-06:002008-07-21T16:40:00.000-06:00Colleen, this is a story I don't know if I would h...Colleen, this is a story I don't know if I would have seen, if it hadn't been for your blog. As always, I'm grateful for the way you keep us informed of things we might otherwise miss.<BR/><BR/>Something about this troy is very suspicious. I can't think of a similar case, in which an endowed chair is funded by an anonymous donor who has control of who is named to that chair. In any case I know of where donors have given money for such a reason, their name is in the open and they are one voice among many in making the selection for the chair.<BR/><BR/>So I wonder if the pressure here is really coming from other quarters. In either case, you are so right: theologians have been reduced in Ratzinger's restorationist church to the level of glorified catechists.<BR/><BR/>And what colossally stupid catechisms are now being produced! I've just run across an issue of a publication called Catholic Answer, which is unbelievable: priests (of course) answering questions from the faithful about whether it's moral to put one's pet to sleep, or to arouse one's spouse without intending to have full-on procreative sex.<BR/><BR/>God help us. Who'd have thought we'd sink to such levels of stupidity and banality less than half a century following a council that was about profound church reform. What this Vatican regime and the last have done to the church is, in some ways, profoundly evil. <BR/><BR/>They have mortgaged the future of the church to a clerical system--their system, the one that protects their power and privilege. And in the process, they have run off just about anybody with a brain, marginalizing theologians and drawing together a tight little band of cultists who argue over cappa magnas and Latin liturgy.William D. Lindseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07246026074693891965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-39848358152522505622008-07-21T15:33:00.000-06:002008-07-21T15:33:00.000-06:00Do you suppose ... "anonymous donor" = "vatican ba...Do you suppose ... <BR/>"anonymous donor" = "vatican bank"?<BR/><BR/>Interesting that it is another woman that is targeted. Another martyr has been created by the Vatican and/or their puppets. (who else would care?) And another nail has been driven into their ecclesiastic coffin.COL55https://www.blogger.com/profile/07057765287988790129noreply@blogger.com