tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post3835716089251057275..comments2023-08-21T03:51:17.425-06:00Comments on Enlightened Catholicism: The Only Charism The Legion Has Is 'Access"colkochhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03432916690101599393noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-14146900912492774582010-03-09T11:16:01.018-07:002010-03-09T11:16:01.018-07:00Matt I lived in the Salt Lake City valley for nine...Matt I lived in the Salt Lake City valley for nine years and met many wonderful Mormons. Played a round of golf twice a week with two old gentleman on the quorum of 72. And did this for four or five years.<br /><br />When I left for Montana I realized I had made a lot of wonderful aquaintances but no real meaningful friendships. And it wasn't limited to Mormons. I had no real friends amongst liberals, Catholics, gays, golfers, you name it. There's was something about everyone staying on the surface and going through the motions, talking the talk but not really connecting. <br /><br />I did have some great talks with my quorum buddies, and they probably would have bailed me out if I needed it, but lots and lots of barriers between us prohibited a real connection. Part of it was my fault because I chose not to rock our comfortable boat. In hind sight I regret that.<br /><br />I understand what you're saying about the RC's. They do a lot of great things and yet, put up some pretty high barriers for which the cost of passage is too high.colkochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03432916690101599393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-62053445054683986102010-03-09T10:31:53.000-07:002010-03-09T10:31:53.000-07:00Thank you, Colleen. I can see the money trail. C...Thank you, Colleen. I can see the money trail. Connects with the shadowy organizations and funders of Cheney family network of subversive activities.<br /><br />Cultlike groups. Whose ultimate aim is a theocratic corporate state. Run by an elite to bamboozle the minions. Yes, I recall now that I dealt with that under "Leo Strauss" and his disciples and all of this. It is a nefarious network of dark designs.TheraPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17684120043427738135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-57292146583196955802010-03-09T09:45:14.470-07:002010-03-09T09:45:14.470-07:00I'm, too, am afraid that it is "all about...I'm, too, am afraid that it is "all about the money," colleen. Regnum Christi are incredibly good fundraisers, able to pull together large sums of money very quickly--in a manner that would amaze struggling parish fundraising teams. They come in like knights in shining armor to financially rescue visible projects. Then, suddenly, they're speakers are on parish and seminary speaking agendas. They are very nice to talk with (truly) and seem so wonderful in that mormon sort of way. I saw this firsthand and it was sort of troubling; however, i remained skeptical the whole time and never gave in. Many of the people around me, however, gave in immediately and thought the regnum christis who came to our project's rescue were the best catholics ever. hmmm...mattnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-60712976712002944072010-03-09T08:53:54.430-07:002010-03-09T08:53:54.430-07:00TheraP, you bet it's all innerconnected. Chec...TheraP, you bet it's all innerconnected. Check out the money and people involved with the Institute For Religion and Democracy.colkochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03432916690101599393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-40737978553817115482010-03-09T07:44:21.391-07:002010-03-09T07:44:21.391-07:00I assent to all you've said, butterfly! (I wa...I assent to all you've said, butterfly! (I wasn't really disagreeing, but pointing out that when someone tries to rig the rules, the best option is not to play the game. But yes, unfortunately, too many souls are preyed upon by those whose consciences have become corrupted and who hold themselves out to control the rules - umm, play God.)<br /><br />All of this reminds me of the "Family" in DC. And one has to wonder to what degree all of this is interconnected. Diabolical puts it lightly perhaps!TheraPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17684120043427738135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-76405859295411365212010-03-08T23:20:03.259-07:002010-03-08T23:20:03.259-07:00Great post!
The Legion & its twin Regnum Chri...Great post!<br /><br />The Legion & its twin Regnum Christi is effectively a mirror of Opus Dei. With the major difference that it presents itself as being "more visible".....sort of!<br /><br />Both entities are like an iceberg: you only can see a very tiny part visible. The majority is hidden. <br /><br />If you watch EWTN everything, group & 'presenter' you see is either a member of Opus Dei, or is running an 'apostolate' approved by the Legion of Christ. For all intent, the two are the same thing. <br /><br />One problem is that, since so much of the LC/RC membership is secretive, you do not know who is who (or what is connected to what) without a scorecard! <br /><br />As Butterly correctly indicates: 'follow the $$ trail". Yet that trail is intentionally obfuscated by myriad front corporations, charitable foundations, etc. Making a flow chart would be hard enough, were it not for the fact that they seem to intentionally start & then dissolve corporations & foundations. Or change names, etc. <br /><br />It is somewhere between cancer cells & ameboae: they replicate like crazy attaching themselves to all & sundry! <br /><br />The sheer amount of $$ involved boggles the mind. And this investigative team is not exactly objective - as Chaput has ties to the Legion of Christ himself:)<br /><br />...but then, were you expecting a major money maker to be broken up?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-89310985737963835102010-03-08T21:14:24.472-07:002010-03-08T21:14:24.472-07:00Nothing much left to say. This could be titled, o...Nothing much left to say. This could be titled, one of the many ways the catholic institution lost contact with spirituality and of many of the People of God! dennisrdp46https://www.blogger.com/profile/04427786268228285222noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-73279603973090978052010-03-08T19:37:17.576-07:002010-03-08T19:37:17.576-07:00Excellent diary and comments. Chaput's impendi...Excellent diary and comments. Chaput's impending whitewash of Maciel's omnisexual affairs is designed to keep the financial tap flowing, while Chaput denies admission to a child raised with same sex parents, and spends CCHD monies meant to help the poor and hungry toward lobbying state governments against civil recognition of same-sex marriages.khughes1963https://www.blogger.com/profile/16118365554189078448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-85076058657353896042010-03-08T16:11:00.916-07:002010-03-08T16:11:00.916-07:00Perhaps I should have explained better by what I m...Perhaps I should have explained better by what I meant TheraP. I realize no one can do that ultimately, take one's freedom of conscience away, unless one allows it or is too confused to use it, or guilted or shamed, but the RCC does have access to minds & hearts and distorts their thinking to non-thinking when it comes to obedience to the authority of the Church. In that sense, they've destroyed their ability to reason with Christ. They've retarded their spiritual and psychological growth. That gives them time to do their dirty work. Without reasoning with Christ, replacing Christ with dogma and canon law and money and worldly power, what kind of conscience does one end up with? It's no really free, but a prisoner.<br /><br />Also, limiting one's ability to exercise liberty, via government laws which would, for example, make laws and policies reflecting absolute rule as opposed to democracy.<br /><br />Also, the mindset of VI, it seems to me, is that of the RCC hierarchy at present under PBXVI. That is all about being against democracy, freedom of conscience and for rule via the RCC's dictates.butterflyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09684946870144030594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-51919965714559052602010-03-08T11:53:58.367-07:002010-03-08T11:53:58.367-07:00I am tempted to wonder if the recent reversal of t...I am tempted to wonder if the recent reversal of the "miracle" cure of a nun with Parkinson's (or whatever they're calling it now) is connected to this scandal. Maybe the miracle is the "non-miracle" when it comes to JPII. That does constitute a set-back, I would think, to this fast track sainthood.<br /><br />The whole thing is just so sordid. And what does it matter if it was one predatory priest at the top or more? Oh, wait.... if it's "just one" then that's a "local problem" and not systemic I guess - even if two popes helped cover it up!<br /><br />butterfly:<br /><br /> No one can really destroy anyone's right to freedom of conscience.<br /><br />Hint: Freedom of conscience = to walk! Exit the $$$-rigged game! Exercise your freedom and walk with Jesus, who I think has left the RC Church hierarchy!<br /><br />Colleen:<br /><br />Really well presented and reasoned post! And may I join you in the anger corner? This is getting to be a case of needing someone to go into the "temple" and throw out all the money changers! Money and influence! And cover-ups! <br /><br />And the internet to blow it all to Kingdom Come!!!<br /><br />(And as for the "devil connection" - does the order think that will have fooled God at the time of death? And besides... what about free will? Or are they now claiming that clerical abuse is a result of lack of free will?) <br /><br />I think we're beyond a tipping point here!!!!TheraPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17684120043427738135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-75273532681200466672010-03-08T10:49:41.463-07:002010-03-08T10:49:41.463-07:00There's nothing like Mammon to buy influence, ...There's nothing like Mammon to buy influence, to gain access to those who have influence on others who have access to influence. It's a great big Club House for those with Mammon. The Legionnaires of Christ should be called the Legionnaires of Mammon. It seems its entire purpose is to exist as a cash cow for the RCC. I have no doubt the CIA recruits from those who attend their schools.<br /><br />While reading this article, Colleen, I also thought about the investigation of the Sisters and the entire way the "investigations" are designed is not to really aide or help the Church or to enlighten anyone. It's a ruse against any really change (which they fear), not for anything for the good, and least of all in the service of Jesus Christ. <br /><br />It's all about centralizing the Vatican and the Pope's, Cardinal's and Bishop's power so that they can further destroy an individual's right to freedom of conscience, to keep the Church wealthy and with access to the wealthy such as you say Colleen.<br /><br />It's a big game for the boy's club who use religion, the Church, the sacraments, use even the Holy name of Jesus to rationalize evil acts of predation and perversion, sexual slavery and domination to get their political and very worldly way.<br /><br />You are so right Colleen - they need to follow the money. They will destroy anyone's ability to follow the money. They already know where the money is coming from, but their job is to destroy the evidence of that money trail and any "exorcisms" will surely just be a cover for their real activity, IMHO.<br /><br />Word verification is suprowsr which seems to spell superpowers, as in worldly, doesn't it?butterflyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09684946870144030594noreply@blogger.com