tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post4017901890319081767..comments2023-08-21T03:51:17.425-06:00Comments on Enlightened Catholicism: The Finn Fiasco Gets Deeper. The Anger Level Risescolkochhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03432916690101599393noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-80402814787037261152011-08-20T14:07:52.893-06:002011-08-20T14:07:52.893-06:00I Was Gang Raped, By Priests Clergy and Bishops of...I Was Gang Raped, By Priests Clergy and Bishops of The Denver Diocese, Then in 1981 was St Mary's Cathedral in Colorado Springs Colorado.<br />That was Before the Colorado Springs DIOCESE Took over. I Imagine a few of the Staff Remained there.<br /> A Life Changing Event.<br /> Be Cautious. Do Not Leave your Children there Alone with out a Female Supervisor.<br /> Later,Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-34372547216863528592011-08-18T08:42:45.148-06:002011-08-18T08:42:45.148-06:00This is even further proof that the Roman Catholic...This is even further proof that the Roman Catholic Church left spirituality a long time ago, in favor of economic and political position in the world. The Spirit that spoke to men and women in the first century has been completely obscured by this narcissistic institution. Chaput is just another in the succession of "wolves in sheep's clothing." Anyone who can't see that has obviously been drinking too much Kool-Aid!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07451297470420738582noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-18942649508796820002011-08-17T15:25:27.893-06:002011-08-17T15:25:27.893-06:00This is even further proof that the Roman Catholic...This is even further proof that the Roman Catholic Church left spirituality a long time ago, in favor of economic and political position in the world. The Spirit that spoke to men and women in the first century has been completely obscured by this narcissistic institution. Chaput is just another in the succession of "wolves in sheep's clothing." Anyone who can't see that has obviously been drinking too much Kool-Aid!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07451297470420738582noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-16506327156309948812011-06-05T10:51:32.026-06:002011-06-05T10:51:32.026-06:00PatO, you so brilliantly and clearly have communic...PatO, you so brilliantly and clearly have communicated the truth of what Finn and all the Bishops and on up into the leadership in the Vatican MUST do in response to sexually violating children or anyone. They are NOT ABOVE THE LAWS that everyone else needs to OBEY.<br /><br />ButterflyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-36320297811792952452011-06-05T00:04:17.566-06:002011-06-05T00:04:17.566-06:00Bishop Finn should go to JAIL for reckless child e...Bishop Finn should go to JAIL for reckless child endangerment and aiding and abetting a known pedophile, along with Vicar Murphy and anyone else that knew. <br /><br />Catholics are much too soft on child rape. Law enforcement has to take over and throw the Bishop and all other complicit managers in jail. <br /> <br />Imagine if this happened at a Chucky Cheese Restaurant. An employee had child porn pictures that he took of children inside Chucky Cheese. Management hid the pictures and allowed the employee further access to small children. Customers would boycott and have every manager thrown in jail, all the way up to the CEO.<br /> <br />We can't expect the Catholic church to rise to the standards of Chucky Cheese, but they should at least have to follow the basic laws of humanity and the laws of the land.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12461865437824551724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-66455499103966598542011-06-04T09:25:44.082-06:002011-06-04T09:25:44.082-06:00It reminds me of some little children who, on firs...It reminds me of some little children who, on first being introduced to the concept of saying "I'm sorry" for what they did, use it as a general license to do whatever they please as long as they say "I'm sorry" afterwards. (Maybe confession is subject to the same misinterpretation.) Mothers usually straighten out the little ones fairly promptly. Who advises the bishops?Jack Bnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-22857879354709898092011-06-04T07:48:30.361-06:002011-06-04T07:48:30.361-06:00Exactly Butterfly. How many times will they drag o...Exactly Butterfly. How many times will they drag out after the fact apologies for committing the exact same mistake? It's like hearing the same old childhood adage--"I did it accidently on purpose."colkochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03432916690101599393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-4911353444055336332011-06-03T22:51:23.704-06:002011-06-03T22:51:23.704-06:00"First and foremost, the diocese is deeply co..."First and foremost, the diocese is deeply concerned for the well-being of this child and her family,” the statement said. “The bishop has reached out to a number of parishes and offered listening sessions.”...<br /><br />How many times, after the fact of being found out, have diocese said how "deeply concerned" they are??? This, after the DAMAGE is done to "this child and her family." Finn, in my opinion, is as rotten as it gets. I will gladly donate for some sackcloth for him to wear a cappa magna made of sackcloth and sooner than Christmas!! He should wear it in JAIL.<br /><br />ButterflyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-5254235623333495412011-06-03T22:48:55.668-06:002011-06-03T22:48:55.668-06:00Oh, my my my and these were the guys that decided ...Oh, my my my and these were the guys that decided not to find fault with each other-- just blame the priests that got caught and dump all the homosexual clerics as the perpetrators. The only way to stop them is to force them out. Perhaps there will be enough outrage in KC to force him out and not accept another Bihsop that is not acceptible to the KC laity and priests. Put Finn and his ilk in jail, do not accept any papal appointee, consecrate someone Bishop of KC after a throuogh search by a search committee of prominatn laity with a prominant priest. <br /><br />Tell the "infalible" Roman Emperor a flat NO we will not do it your way. dennisrdp46https://www.blogger.com/profile/04427786268228285222noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-32073534476540882032011-06-03T18:37:42.921-06:002011-06-03T18:37:42.921-06:00mjc, I hope conservative Catholics begin to unders...mjc, I hope conservative Catholics begin to understand the clerical abuse cover up has nothing to do with ideology and everything to do with a failed abusive clerical system. That's why I think the Finn case is so important, and no, I'm not surprised the mainstream press hasn't picked up on it much. You can bet they heard from the USCCB the minute this broke. Especially given it broke one day after the release of the John Jay report.<br /><br />Jack I although I haven't read the whole missive, I have read excerpts of it. At the time I was actually impressed that some bishop somewhere had taken on pornography. I have written on this issue a number of times in the last four or five years. <br /><br />Now I think Finn's letter is just one more example of teaching for the laity that doesn't extend to the clergy.colkochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03432916690101599393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-85877338568674322392011-06-03T15:37:43.556-06:002011-06-03T15:37:43.556-06:00"Next Christmas perhaps it will be sack cloth..."Next Christmas perhaps it will be sack cloth and ashes."<br /><br />This was the best laugh I've had in quite a while!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-24505507707305197402011-06-03T15:20:09.055-06:002011-06-03T15:20:09.055-06:00Colleen -
Background reading. Presumably driven...Colleen - <br />Background reading. Presumably driven by piety, Finn wrote a 21-page, very detailed pastoral letter to the whole diocese and all people of good will four years ago (2/21/07): <br />"Blessed Are the Pure In Heart - A Pastoral Letter on the Dignity of the Human Person and the Dangers of Pornography" <br /> http://www.diocese-kcsj.org/_docs/Pastoral-02-07.pdf <br />Associating the letter with his actions and inactions of the past year may complicate thinking about him.Jack Bnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-88009579082969174622011-06-03T14:44:17.764-06:002011-06-03T14:44:17.764-06:001. Remember, the purpose of the cappa magna has al...1. Remember, the purpose of the cappa magna has always been to cover the horse's ass.<br /><br />2. Thank you for your input on this event. I remain shocked (and I mean that) that the Finn story is not a national headline, that the conservative Catholics see it as just a mistake and a shame. Did anyone ask him to step down? To his face? I certainly hope so. How many bishops, placing themselves above the faith as well as the faithful, does it take before there is a true outcry? And even with that, the outcry in Boston led to the reshuffling of Law, not the loss of his faculties and place at the Vatican trough. I wish I had an answer to give, a direction to turn beyond blind trust in the Spirit.mjcnoreply@blogger.com