tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post4831276122146772305..comments2023-08-21T03:51:17.425-06:00Comments on Enlightened Catholicism: When Certain Voices Speak, Rome Listens--colkochhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03432916690101599393noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-60430773018834828022008-12-23T10:09:00.000-07:002008-12-23T10:09:00.000-07:00Annonymous, McCloskey would fit right in with thos...Annonymous, McCloskey would fit right in with those Jesuits. I don't fault him for his zeal. I don't think he's kidding when he states he would die for his cause and I can respect that.<BR/><BR/>What I can't respect is that he's doing this in a secular democracy and fomenting a culture war based in notions of theocracy, and he is backed by powerful secular interests who have no intention of dieing for this cause, any more than Cheney and Bush had any intention of their sons or daughters dieing in Iraq.<BR/><BR/>McCloskey is being duped. He is not being as 'wise as a serpent', much less 'as gentle as a dove'.colkochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03432916690101599393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-20432700879746341772008-12-22T11:47:00.000-07:002008-12-22T11:47:00.000-07:00I am currently reading God's Secret Agents where t...I am currently reading God's Secret Agents where the Jesuits infiltrate England in the late 1500's during the rise of Anglicanism. They were tough, orthodox men who fought to preserve the Catholic faith. Interestingly enough, McCloskey's reminds me of these faithful Jesuits.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-5380808466770807812008-12-19T11:32:00.000-07:002008-12-19T11:32:00.000-07:00Nuclear.kelley, I love the photo. It really is wo...Nuclear.kelley, I love the photo. It really is worth a thousand words. McCloskey looks so freaking innocent, which is why his verbage is so startling, as the author of this article can't help pointing out.colkochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03432916690101599393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-50609684481029361432008-12-19T11:30:00.000-07:002008-12-19T11:30:00.000-07:00I have seen the Jesus Camp documentary. It was on...I have seen the Jesus Camp documentary. It was one of the reasons I wrote a number of articles on the Apocalyptic fringe of the Evangelical right of which Sarah Palin is the hoped for standard bearer. <BR/>The Third Wave is what it is known as, and they are based in Colorado Springs and they have many members connected the the rightwing Catholic cause, most notabely James Dobson. OH, and lest I forget, Fr. McCloskey.<BR/><BR/>Another group which is equally frightening is Joel's Army, the militant wing of the Third Wave and the largest backer of Jesus Camp.<BR/><BR/>This is truly a multi headed hydra, but there has to be one central head. The trick is identifying that head.colkochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03432916690101599393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-66005280698631970242008-12-18T20:38:00.000-07:002008-12-18T20:38:00.000-07:00Read a wonderful quote somewhere that said, effect...Read a wonderful quote somewhere that said, effectively, that if all you ever do is chew on the words, it's no wonder you're spiritually starving.<BR/>Fantastic post. I have to admit, that stock photo is one of the funniest things I've seen in a while. Thanks.nuclear.kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18218956177203199577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-7651513423273654522008-12-18T15:06:00.000-07:002008-12-18T15:06:00.000-07:00thanks colkoch. . .very informative. . .and truly ...thanks colkoch. . .very informative. . .and truly the roots of this is much like the "Hydra" with its multiple heads. . .<BR/><BR/>Have you seen the documentary called JESUS CAMP?. . . .<BR/><BR/>The entire documentary has been placed on Google video so i will supply a link here. . .i would suggest any that are interested in having a birds eye view of the programming that is happening in many fundamentalist organizations to take the time to see this one. . .<BR/><BR/>JESUS CAMP <BR/><BR/>http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3929535037535102662<BR/><BR/>Also Colkoch a week or so before the last elections Dr. E. wrote a post on The Moderate Voice concerning Prop 8. . . it was a flow from another post she had written earlier about marriage and GLBT. . . <BR/><BR/>In the comment section Dr. E. responded to a comment which i felt was one of the riches explanations linking the dynamics of fundamentalism. . . will supply the link. . . <BR/><BR/>The Moderate Voice<BR/><BR/>http://themoderatevoice.com/23973/poli-sci-fi-girl-on-gays-and-marriage-against-prop-8-california-elections/#disqus_thread<BR/><BR/>Thanks again for the time and thought you gave to question. . .<BR/><BR/>i honor your voiceriverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06788063200800504460noreply@blogger.com