tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post5060611962534094120..comments2023-08-21T03:51:17.425-06:00Comments on Enlightened Catholicism: Oh Puhhleeeaaase. It's Truly Time For A Real Reality Checkcolkochhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03432916690101599393noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-32418779500513743692010-07-12T09:30:54.937-06:002010-07-12T09:30:54.937-06:00Colleen,
Thanks for the link to the U.S. Catholic ...Colleen,<br />Thanks for the link to the U.S. Catholic blog post and for the commentary. Per fair use copyright rule, would you mind only posting a short selection, maybe just a paragraph, from our blog along with your commentary rather than copy and pasting the whole post? Thanks for reading!<br />Megan Sweas<br />Online Editor, U.S. CatholicOnline Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08728708300841556163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-44433402951349137862010-07-11T19:31:34.122-06:002010-07-11T19:31:34.122-06:00Colleen,
Thank you for your short, almost haiku-l...Colleen,<br /><br />Thank you for your short, almost haiku-like, comment on Mel.<br /><br />Agreed.<br /><br />The Japanese say:<br /><br />Man drinks drink,<br />Drink drinks drink,<br />Drink drinks man.<br /><br /><br />p2pAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-42539904121861800212010-07-11T10:28:54.488-06:002010-07-11T10:28:54.488-06:00p2p I said I was going to write about Mad Mel, but...p2p I said I was going to write about Mad Mel, but it's kind of a hard thing for me to do. So I'll do it here.<br /><br />When I saw the Passion of the Christ, I saw Mel Gibson. When I saw Apocalypto, I saw Mel Gibson. When I saw Mad Max and the Road Warrior way back in 1982 I saw Mel Gibson.<br /><br />I see a man chased by demons desparately seeking redemption. When he's drunk the demons win, and when he's sober he's trying to find redemption.colkochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03432916690101599393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-42284970058234441912010-07-10T21:20:49.555-06:002010-07-10T21:20:49.555-06:00This entire article was quite thought provoking.This entire article was quite thought provoking.Mareczkuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13122584421854834046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-2086041356834125192010-07-10T21:20:08.079-06:002010-07-10T21:20:08.079-06:00Yes it is pretty awful that the Church seems to be...Yes it is pretty awful that the Church seems to be linking ordination of women with abuse of children. It is telling that those involved in the ordination of women are excommunicated but those that abuse or even rape children are just removed from their parishes and maybe the priesthood. In the past, those that raped and abused children were often just transferred to another parish. I wonder how many of these men were not allowed to hear confesson in their new parishes because they raped or molested a child.Mareczkuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13122584421854834046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-78865137817064099332010-07-10T10:40:29.097-06:002010-07-10T10:40:29.097-06:00Speaking of Mel Gibson, he reminds me of the chara...Speaking of Mel Gibson, he reminds me of the character played by Robert Deniro in Raging Bull in how he treats women. Maybe something will awaken in him for him and his ilk to learn and grow from. .... wishful thinking. <br /><br />If Mel can't control his drinking, he can control his women, so he thinks.... However, that is not working for him. He winds up putting his foot in his mouth each time he opens it.... reminds me of the Vatican men in trying to control the women in the Church. Can't be done.butterflyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09684946870144030594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-18575379446212107602010-07-10T09:08:52.464-06:002010-07-10T09:08:52.464-06:00Wow, p2p we are really on the same wavelength. I ...Wow, p2p we are really on the same wavelength. I was going to write on Mel Gibson and the Passion of the Christ but decided to put it off until tomorrow.<br /><br />All morning I've been sort of tweaked about Mel. It's an important story and for some of the reasons you mention. All I will say about it for now is that the general response to Mel's latest abusive hatefest is that the over all response has been one of great sadness.colkochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03432916690101599393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-21022167227662309162010-07-10T08:12:51.117-06:002010-07-10T08:12:51.117-06:00Real Reality Check
Not so long ago the "Trad...Real Reality Check<br /><br />Not so long ago the "Traditionalists", the "Orthodox", and the SSPX were riding high. <br /><br />Mel Gibson hasn't much been discussed here. The Passion of the Christ was en enormous success both at the box office and in encouraging a particular religious point of view. Mel Gibson, a follower of the SSPX and believed to be bankrolled by Opus Dei, was an off screen role model. <br /><br />We're all sinners but... the pattern of denial, repression, then the incredible explosive release of that which had been denied... isn't just coincidental.<br /><br />p2pAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-74441128993071383382010-07-10T03:41:48.349-06:002010-07-10T03:41:48.349-06:00The mind which conflates these two issues....If I ...The mind which conflates these two issues....If I met someone at a party who linked the two I would immediately leave their presence because I simply would not want to hear further what that person had to say about anything!!<br /><br />I do agree it helps the women priests movement immensely and brings them to the forefront with gusto.John Bijarneyhttp://www.bijarney.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-27382555274510134632010-07-09T23:26:35.289-06:002010-07-09T23:26:35.289-06:00colkoch-
You have exactly right! They are running...colkoch-<br />You have exactly right! They are running scared: the Vatican down to the LC (and their minions). The Lord has cast down the mighty. Isn't that the beginning of salvation...according to the gospels?kevin57https://www.blogger.com/profile/01681985465980196347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-77707746812781423032010-07-09T21:05:06.799-06:002010-07-09T21:05:06.799-06:00p2p the fear level in the True Catholic must be ri...p2p the fear level in the True Catholic must be rising. I sometimes wonder if Benedict's dilly dallying on the abuse crisis and other issues has them facing the truth that they may be running out of time to shove their Church down everyone's throat and Benedict may not have been the champion they thought he was going to be.colkochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03432916690101599393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-12977187334409787242010-07-09T20:59:18.768-06:002010-07-09T20:59:18.768-06:00Hmmm.
"Child abuse is bad." That's ...Hmmm.<br /><br />"Child abuse is bad." That's a good development.<br /><br />The use of the word "attempted" seems legalese, avoiding the possibility of acknowledging an ordination, even an illegitimate one.<br /><br />I have some good news. It may only be on a small scale but I thought you might share my joy. <br /><br />In our little parish there is a very conservative, home schooling, Opus Dei leaning group who invited the Legionaries of Christ to establish their programs here last year. I was the only person to speak out against them. It gave me no pleasure to sit through their powerpoint. I couldn't stand to hear a fellow parishioner attempt to gloss over the LC/RC's misogyny, corruption and deception about MM's child sexual abuse etc. <br /><br />Today I heard that those most responsible for attempting to undermine our parish had met with our parish priest. Apparently it became a shouting match about the "true" Catholic Church. They said our parish was not a "real" Catholic Church and in the end they announced they were leaving. Good riddance, I say. <br /><br />We're having the parish priest over for dinner ASAP.<br /><br />p2pAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-18797726411828264412010-07-09T15:57:41.685-06:002010-07-09T15:57:41.685-06:00The only way this makes logical sense is that who ...The only way this makes logical sense is that who ever wrote these norms saw both clerical abuse and ordination women as grave violations of priestly discipline. The trouble with this is that it tacitly admits ordaining women is somehow a spiritual priestly reality. That's actually quite an admission.<br /><br />Otherwise this coupling of the two under the same norms is truly ignorant at best, or intentionally mysoginistic at worst.colkochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03432916690101599393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-5287858595626677862010-07-09T12:57:09.129-06:002010-07-09T12:57:09.129-06:00Punish "attempted" ordination - sounds s...Punish "attempted" ordination - sounds so silly. Do they mean they will disrupt the process before it gets going, so that they abort the "attempt" and then punish the attempters? Or do they view the "real" ordination as simply a charade, an "attempt" - as God wouldn't ordain the ordination. <br /><br />But now....<br /><br />What about "attempted child rape" then? If attempted ordination is terrible, worse than anything, maybe "attempted child rape" is even WORSE than actual rape? Yes, that must be what they're getting at... ;)<br /><br />Yes... circular firing squad. <br /><br />Here's an idea. There's an age of Reason one reaches. And stays in for some time. And if some live long enough and addle their brains sufficiently, they read the <b>Age of Unreason</b>.TheraPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17684120043427738135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-80731063965341151472010-07-09T12:08:44.150-06:002010-07-09T12:08:44.150-06:00Maybe that's the really effective solution to ...Maybe that's the really effective solution to the real problem of ending the Vatican fantasy.colkochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03432916690101599393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-40813785067151633162010-07-09T12:01:56.806-06:002010-07-09T12:01:56.806-06:00May it be said the Vatican has a circular firing s...May it be said the Vatican has a circular firing squad here? ;)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com