tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post5253490941247224716..comments2023-08-21T03:51:17.425-06:00Comments on Enlightened Catholicism: More 'Astonishment' From The Vatican And It's Bankerscolkochhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03432916690101599393noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-70969925192937943412010-10-25T17:25:03.605-06:002010-10-25T17:25:03.605-06:00I'm reminded of Winston Churchill's speech...I'm reminded of Winston Churchill's speech:<br /><br /><b><i>"We shall go on to the end, we shall fight in France, <br />we shall fight on the seas and oceans, <br />we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our Island, whatever the cost may be,<br />we shall fight on the beaches, <br />we shall fight on the landing grounds, <br />we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, <br />we shall fight in the hills; <br />we shall never surrender, and even if, which I do not for a moment believe, this Island or a large part of it were subjugated and starving, then our Empire beyond the seas, armed and guarded by the British Fleet, would carry on the struggle, until, in God's good time, the New World, with all its power and might, steps forth to the rescue and the liberation of the old."</i></b><br /><br />p2p<br /><br />word verification: concomAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-49069061607010413312010-10-25T17:16:33.735-06:002010-10-25T17:16:33.735-06:00Taliban Catholics indeed!!!
We've been in the...Taliban Catholics indeed!!!<br /><br />We've been in the same parish for more than 20 years. We've entertained each one of our parish priests at our home on many occasions. One priest, who is most responsible for my continued adherence to the faith, chose me as a confidant. <br /><br />What we have heard over and over again from parish priests is the attempt by these arch-conservatives to undermine the local priests. They act like tattle-tales, some of them writing weekly to the Bishop. Nothing is too small to be criticized. One woman appointed herself the "catechist" of our parish. They've got an incredible sense of entitlement and arrogance about them. Can they not see they are Pharisees?<br /><br />Thomas Peters broke the Marcial Maciel story so at least he has some conscience but what a jerk otherwise. As I delved into the Legion of Christ scandal I started to read the "American Papist". I was horrified by the response of some of his readers to Maciel's crimes. One said "Jesus, Mary, and Joseph I pray that this is not true!". This sentiment was repeated over and over again. <br /><br />I can't remember whether I mentioned this here so forgive me if I repeat myself. Some of the cons were proposing to bring the Legion of Christ/Regnum Christi youth programs to our parish. I attended their organizing meeting and spoke against the idea citing Maciel's crimes, the secretive and coercive nature of their "retreats" for youth and the sexist nature of the Conquest and Challenge programs. At the time I was astounded that a well educated and well intended man could stand up and justify the programs, acknowledge the problems with the LC/RC and still recommend we adopt them. I now feel somewhat smug and superior knowing that I was vindicated. At the time I felt no pleasure at all. <br /><br />p2pAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-90105208271455383012010-10-25T10:09:57.051-06:002010-10-25T10:09:57.051-06:00Those darn right-wingers can't even stay off t...Those darn right-wingers can't even stay off this site. I'm finding adverts for the local GOP candidate for US House. I've already cast my ballot. I wish that meant I didn't get any more of those adverts.<br /><br />Senator Danforth, after he retired from the US Senate, wrote a book a couple of years ago in which he describes the affront to both religion and politics when the 2 are combined. I wish more of the religious right were listening. An ordained minister before starting a political career, he made a very good case.<br /><br />The right-wingers in the church hierarchy I can ignore. Much as I am saddened by the sins being committed, I'm not dependent on the institution of the church for the good of my soul. My problem enters when they impact politics and law. I don't appreciate the attempts to coerce my conscience.<br />VeronicaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-3629579418551851302010-10-25T08:41:15.787-06:002010-10-25T08:41:15.787-06:00It does get old, and the more information that com...It does get old, and the more information that comes out the crazier all the emphasis on the integrity and sexual morality of others appears as nothing more than an orchestrated smoke screen.colkochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03432916690101599393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-20443402398603452472010-10-25T07:52:02.334-06:002010-10-25T07:52:02.334-06:00And the news about the documents released in San D...And the news about the documents released in San Diego is so familiar. Corruption at the highest-Vatican and lowest-parish levels and the right wing nuts are concerned about the proper orientation of our sexuality! Not to mention the proper dress code!coolmomnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-47628560550846842932010-10-24T10:37:12.874-06:002010-10-24T10:37:12.874-06:00All I can say is "wow!" You certainly hi...All I can say is "wow!" You certainly hit the nails on the head. I too saw this article in the AP feed on the NYT. Despite the denials from the members of the apostleship of wingnuttery that have named themselves as defenders of institutional Catholicism, their movement is absolutely political and will wind up discrediting the church more than it helps it. You certainly are right about the fact that what people really do doesn't matter to the apostleship of wingnuttery, rather they give credibility to what they say. Maybe these people should re-read this week's gospel and look into the mirror while doing so.khughes1963https://www.blogger.com/profile/16118365554189078448noreply@blogger.com