tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post9087298579131278393..comments2023-08-21T03:51:17.425-06:00Comments on Enlightened Catholicism: The Witch Hunts Are Backcolkochhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03432916690101599393noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-86698244233128113252009-01-16T06:38:00.000-07:002009-01-16T06:38:00.000-07:00Yes, it is all the old energy, the low vibration. ...Yes, it is all the old energy, the low vibration. After reading your response I sat with the question of why I keep going back to the nazi and pharisee analogies. This morning I woke up realizing that when we use the term "old energy", light bulbs go on for some, and turn off for others. The nazi and pharisee analogies are a way to communicate the concept to those who turn off on "energy".COL55https://www.blogger.com/profile/07057765287988790129noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-18881587569763042542009-01-15T07:32:00.000-07:002009-01-15T07:32:00.000-07:00Carl, there are historians who think Himmler based...Carl, there are historians who think Himmler based the SS on the Jesuits. There's nothing new going on with the preferred status of Opus Dei, The Neocats, or the Legionares, or for that matter all the secrecy.<BR/><BR/>This is all old old energy, so yea I guess you could draw parallels, but you could draw the same parallels for Free Masonry in democracies. It's all the same stuff and it's effective usefullness is waning. Thank God.colkochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03432916690101599393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-86369496687767516472009-01-14T16:05:00.000-07:002009-01-14T16:05:00.000-07:00On a slightly different note, I've been thinking a...On a slightly different note, I've been thinking about what you wrote in one of the paragraphs ...<BR/><BR/>Do you suppose ...<BR/><BR/>that Opus Dei, Neochatechumenal Way, Legionnaires of Christ are modern versions of the SS, Ghestapo and Brown shirts?<BR/><BR/>that gays are the modern version of the jews?COL55https://www.blogger.com/profile/07057765287988790129noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-24367082221652028702009-01-14T11:54:00.000-07:002009-01-14T11:54:00.000-07:00It's also about the dynamics of anger/guilt.We rai...It's also about the dynamics of anger/guilt.<BR/><BR/>We raise our children to be generous, "let other's play with your ball", be polite and respectful, honor your elders, etc etc etc.<BR/><BR/>Then as adults we are expected to be competitive, driven to selfish consumerism, and authoritative in order to be considered successful.<BR/><BR/>No wonder people vacillate between anger and guilt, hugs and slaps. Their brains are essentially cross wired, having been entrained in one method of survival and then being expected to dump that cooperative model for the competitive adult model. <BR/><BR/>Except if your a woman. Then your expected to be competitive in the sexual market until you get married. Then you have to become cooperative again. Hence, many issues in marriage between hugging and slapping. It's traditional.colkochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03432916690101599393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-45536193529506176552009-01-14T07:50:00.000-07:002009-01-14T07:50:00.000-07:00Bill, I'm not really sure if he was raised Catholi...Bill, I'm not really sure if he was raised Catholic or not. The behavior from some Catholics that I know in my own family is not dissimilar to Jackie's however. And our friends and foes who have no compulsion to even begin to contemplate their own behavior, but do carry on about the behavior of others, is noteworthy.<BR/><BR/>The affects of such psychological thrashing about of embracing one to disgracing one are an example I believe of self-hatred. It is certainly not how Christ behaved, nor is it a sign of Christ.butterflyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09684946870144030594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-37654180342458487292009-01-14T05:40:00.000-07:002009-01-14T05:40:00.000-07:00Butterfly--fascinating. I don't want to stretch, ...Butterfly--fascinating. I don't want to stretch, but wasn't Gleason raised Catholic?<BR/><BR/>This seems to me to be a personality profile especially prominent among folks raised in rigid conservative religious groups: hug, slap. Maybe it's because that's the model of relationship the churches themselves (in their right-wing manifestations) hand on to folks.William D. Lindseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07246026074693891965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-51608734633487988392009-01-13T15:36:00.000-07:002009-01-13T15:36:00.000-07:00Bill, that is so interesting what you say here "Is...Bill, that is so interesting what you say here "Isn't it a little bit of delicious irony, though, that the church itself has promoted these same visionaries on whom it's now cracking down? It's the old slap me, hug me attitude of churches. Woo them with hugs. Then slap them when they get uppity."<BR/><BR/>This reminds me of something I read about Jackie Gleason. In the fat man post I mention highlights of Gleason's life, but he was also said to be like that and this was written about him "He was a paradox-excessively generous one moment and excessively cruel the next."butterflyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09684946870144030594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-3484901170102991092009-01-13T13:27:00.000-07:002009-01-13T13:27:00.000-07:00I had just gotten through reading about this crack...I had just gotten through reading about this crackdown on Marian visionaries on Huffington Post, and thought of emailing to tell you about it.<BR/><BR/>Then I logged onto your blog, and you're, as always, a step ahead.<BR/><BR/>The money's definitely a big issue here. I imagine Medjugore has brought in huge sums in the past few decades, perhaps even to rival Fatima and Lourdes.<BR/><BR/>Isn't it a little bit of delicious irony, though, that the church itself has promoted these same visionaries on whom it's now cracking down? It's the old slap me, hug me attitude of churches. Woo them with hugs. Then slap them when they get uppity.William D. Lindseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07246026074693891965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-21946525313752075242009-01-13T12:20:00.000-07:002009-01-13T12:20:00.000-07:00River that's what I thought too. How in the world...River that's what I thought too. How in the world does an atheist psychiatrist validate a vision of Mary, specifically Mary.<BR/><BR/>I do have to state that I have heard of psychiatrists and psychologists who will do or say pretty much anything for the right hourly fee.<BR/><BR/>My prediction is this: All the valid visionaries will come from....ta dah......SPAIN!<BR/><BR/>I am waiting with breathless anticipation for DSMV so I can learn about 'delusions of leadership'. Maybe we will finally have the definitive diagnosis for GW Bush.colkochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03432916690101599393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-48733389210954811252009-01-13T11:34:00.000-07:002009-01-13T11:34:00.000-07:00correction. . ."psychiatrists atheists validating ...correction. . ."psychiatrists atheists validating Marian vision" i would say this one is a oxymoron. . .sparrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09704407318593137610noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-8844332773560106762009-01-13T11:30:00.000-07:002009-01-13T11:30:00.000-07:00"The visionaries will next be visited by psychiatr..."The visionaries will next be visited by psychiatrists, either atheists or Catholics, to certify their mental health and to verify whether they are suffering from conditions of a hysterical or hallucinatory character or from delusions of leadership.". . .<BR/><BR/>Is this one a hoot?. . ."psychiatrists atheists" i would say this one is a oxymoron. . .<BR/> <BR/>and "delusions of leadership"????. . . .i would say this one is a stellar example of projection. . .<BR/><BR/><BR/>the old dinosaurs are really in a buckle these days from so many areas. . .maybe this is where we are going to replenish the oil reserves. . .mercy!<BR/><BR/>this does look like the strategy of the tragic past, but the Vatican Catholic Church no longer has the authority and power to stamp out the unique and divine varieties of religious experiences heralding in the world through the direct and personal relationship with the Sacred. . .<BR/><BR/><BR/>i both laugh and cry with the injunction; "The first step will be to impose silence on the alleged visionaries and if they refuse to obey then this will be taken as a sign that their claims are false."<BR/><BR/>In modern day this is a bit like the group of wealthy men that gathered the financial resources together to bring law suits against therapist and formed the "False Memory Syndrome"?. . . ( the False Memory Syndrome funded fifty lawsuits for a period of five years in order to put fear into therapist so they would banish working with the feminine psyche and its indepth exploration of suppression by the spirit of domination. . . I wonder if a new psychiatric diagnosis will come out of this one?. . ."False Mary Syndrome"?. . . <BR/><BR/>Always goes back to the fear of and the power maneuvers to subjugate the expression of the feminine. . .<BR/><BR/>Also this don't tell. . .How many examples do we have of Jesus telling those he healed and experienced a direct experience with the Divine;"DO NOT TELL ANYONE"?. . .and what did those people do?. . .They ran and told everyone about Him and the Divine touch. . .<BR/><BR/>Why would the Pope believe that if they did not listen to Jesus, why would they listen to him?. . .mercy!sparrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09704407318593137610noreply@blogger.com