tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post9113671847711898751..comments2023-08-21T03:51:17.425-06:00Comments on Enlightened Catholicism: Returning To The Mythology Of The Past Is No Way To Address The Crisis In The Presentcolkochhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03432916690101599393noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-6346265764776444952009-09-16T08:15:45.354-06:002009-09-16T08:15:45.354-06:00You are right. I have met some of the newer priest...You are right. I have met some of the newer priests, and in at least two cases, it's obvious they are extremely conservative, and I could foresee clashes with more liberal members of the laity. Fr. McBrien is right, but unfortunately, no one in charge is listening to his wisdom. I am also getting tired of some members of the hierarchy and priesthood treating the Eucharist as some sort of reward to be doled out or withheld depending upon whether one toes the line with respect to one's political or theological beliefs. I've not experienced this in the parishes I attend, but I've heard about it in the news, and I don't think it follows Jesus' example of welcoming all.khughes1963https://www.blogger.com/profile/16118365554189078448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-76925330227923886982009-09-15T17:17:56.198-06:002009-09-15T17:17:56.198-06:00Welcome Beth and glad to have you on board.Welcome Beth and glad to have you on board.colkochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03432916690101599393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-48225233727701798662009-09-15T15:44:03.738-06:002009-09-15T15:44:03.738-06:00I am very glad to find this blog. I was beginning...I am very glad to find this blog. I was beginning to feel like it was time to stop associating myself with the Catholic Church since I felt so out of step. Thank you for saying what I want to say.beth cioffolettihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09300116274007165612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-6300578385271582052009-09-15T14:01:47.601-06:002009-09-15T14:01:47.601-06:00Wild hair, don't you think the fact none of th...Wild hair, don't you think the fact none of these issues is ever addressed is tantamount to an admission by the hierarchy that it has no reasonable answers and that's why it tolerates no discussion.<br /><br />In some respects Catholicism is like a dog being controlled by it's fleas and tics.colkochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03432916690101599393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-89321356184635808132009-09-15T09:11:39.259-06:002009-09-15T09:11:39.259-06:00Maybe all of the women in the Church who support S...Maybe all of the women in the Church who support Sister Louise Akers position in defense of women priests should just not show up to Church anymore.butterflyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09684946870144030594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-70899845192360691572009-09-15T07:37:17.701-06:002009-09-15T07:37:17.701-06:00I for one do not expect any of the issues about pr...I for one do not expect any of the issues about priesthood that Fr. McBrian raises will be addressed in this Year of the Priest. I do see glimmers of hope for the church, and yet I think those hopes are only glimmers in the present state of the church. I do feel some energy for ministry which for me is exercised around the fringes of the church. Overall I would share a great disappointment in today’s church.<br /><br />I experience all of the issues that Fr. McBrian raises in the diocese in which I live and in my own religious community. And for the most part those issues are not ever addressed. <br /><br />I do experience faith based groups looking for much more than they find in the parish church or in their local diocese. In my own diocese the bishop is trying to exert more and more control over who can come into the diocese and speak. So I think national groups like Call To Action are more important these days. I also welcome the internet where there can be free and open discussion of issues that are “not allowed” to be talked about in official church circles. Somehow, I believe, the Spirit is lurking in cyberspace. <br /><br />Anyhow, I am one of those folks close to retirement, and I guess I could say that I cannot wait. Somehow that also makes me sad for so many who are neglected quality ministry today.wild hairhttp://wildhair95.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-10479605677118130372009-09-15T07:10:56.912-06:002009-09-15T07:10:56.912-06:00We should not ordain women because there aren'...We should not ordain women because there aren't enough men...we should ordain women because it is right and just. There is nothing in scripture to prevent women from being ordained...the pope's own commission said so, just before he decided to ignore them and declared that the church lacked authority to ordain women. It is blatant sexism. NCR has posted another newsnote: a catechist who wrote a letter to the local newspaper in support of Sr. Louise Akers and the position of ordaining women has been told by Daniel Pilarczyk she can no longer be a catechist in her parish.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8383701632927065467.post-84002877782822305142009-09-14T14:16:03.338-06:002009-09-14T14:16:03.338-06:00Perhaps what the Church needs in this Year of the ...Perhaps what the Church needs in this Year of the Priest is for All Priests to read Hans Kung's History of the Catholic Church and begin to have discussions about this history, learn from the mistakes and build a Church that reflects Jesus Christ and the earliest followers of Christ's teachings? <br /><br />While NCR comments in outrage against Fr McBrien for his opinion saying that Eucharistic Adoration was a step backwards, these same people advocate that those who don't agree with them should just leave the Church or be excommunicated in which they are no longer even allowed to receive the Eucharist. This is an utterly backwards view, selfish view of Jesus to deny Him and take Him away from the divorced and remarried, liberation theologians, Obama supporters, Democrats, gays. This they say as they devote their supposed adoration in the presence of the Lord, yet this presence they deny the experience of in others and relish the idea that they even be excommunicated, to have no Communion with Christ.<br /><br />While they can prevent Communion in the Catholic Church, they cannot prevent Communion with Christ. <br /><br />Fr. McBrien brings up the truth of what priests are experiencing today in his most recent article. The hierarchy is acting like a big ostrich in denial of these obvious issues such as a shortage of priest. Who will Baptize if there are not enough priest? Will the Church find reasons to not Baptize certain children? I've heard of stories in which the Priest will not Baptize the child if the parents are not married. The hierarchy seems to be into the deliberate practice of downsizing the faithful along certain lines, while at the same time allowing other elements into the Church like sspx, opus dei, legionnaires of Christ. These groups are a militant expression of the Church reminiscent of days past in which there was much bloodshed committed by the self-righteous "faithful." It is hypocrisy to promote militarism and its tactics and then to say you are promoting the Peace and love of Jesus Christ. I am wondering when the Pope will see the hypocrisy? And, if he does see it, then why does he not change it?<br /><br />I believe there is a lot of craziness going on and for the hierarchy to call this the Year of the Priest and to not deal with the various Priest issues of sexual scandals and promoting those who so loyally "protected" the molesters of children and seminarians, promoting the sealing of documents and keeping them secret, is a huge mistake. It is a total denial of the present reality.<br /><br />I don't have much hope for the future existence of the Catholic Church in its current mode of denial.<br /><br />The silent majority of Priests need to unite with others who feel as they do. But they seem to refuse to let that genie out of the bottle.butterflyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09684946870144030594noreply@blogger.com