Monday, April 16, 2012

The Empire Continues To Strike Back

Fr Sean McDonagh and other members of the Irish Association of Catholic Priests find themselves defending another silenced priest.
And yet another story about another Irish priest silenced by the Vatican.  Last week it was Fr Tony Flannery was sent to a monastery to rethink his theology, and this week it's 84 year old Marist theologian Sean Fagan,  who was silenced by the Vatican in 2010, and sworn to secrecy about his silencing or face prohibition from exercising his faculties.  This Vatican action appears to have been brought about by some of his writing on moral theology, his statements regarding the abuse crisis in Ireland, and statements calling for married and women priests.  

Is the idea of adding women and married priests to the priesthood so awful that bishops and priests who speak about these issues are silenced, fired,  and sent to monasteries, but pedophiles and abusers are still protected and forgiven?  This sort of insanity beggars belief.  Again, I find myself utterly stupefied and ashamed of this corrupt and clueless hierarchy.

Priests' group rallies behind cleric silenced by hierarchy

By Luke Byrne - Irish Independent - Monday April 16 2012
AN organisation representing hundreds of priests last night described the silencing of Fr Sean Fagan over his writings as "outrageous".
The 84-year-old Marist priest was ordered to stop writing and commenting in public after he had called for an inquiry into clerical sexual abuse in all dioceses of the State.
All available copies of a theological book written by Fr Fagan were also bought up by his religious order and he was required to give an undertaking not to write again.
The move came after he had advocated allowing women and married men to be ordained as priests.
Last night, Fr Sean McDonagh of the Association of Catholic Priests said the silencing of Fr Fagan was "just outrageous". He accused the church of "throwing a fatwa" at the priest and said that some of the church's recent actions were like a return to the Inquisition.
"This isn't the time for heresy hunting," Fr McDonagh said. He added that Fr Fagan was clear, well written and interesting and that he had wanted to start a conversation about the church's views on sexuality.
Fr McDonagh said that he believed that the silencing of priests by the Vatican was out of a desire for "control", rather than because of sincerely held belief or intelligent argument.
A spokesman for the Irish bishops last night refused to comment and referred the issue to the Marist order.
Calls to a superior of the order by the Irish Independent, which was seeking comment, went unreturned last night.
In January 2010, following the publication of the Murphy report, Fr Fagan argued that all dioceses within the State should be examined.
He said the church should begin with "the three As" approach -- to admit, accept and adjust.
This was among the last public comments he made before he was silenced three months later, following an anonymous complaint made against him to the Vatican.
Fr Fagan authored three books, including 'Has Sin Changed?', 'Does Morality Change?' and 'What Happened to Sin?'
In 2004 the Irish Bishops' Conference cited 'Does Morality Change?' as an example of an error in modern theology.
Following the publication of 'What Happened to Sin?' in 2008, Fr Fagan advocated the ordination of women and married men.
All unsold copies of the book were subsequently bought up by his order.


At the rate the Vatican is launching verbal and written missiles at the Irish Church and it's priests, it won't be long before the Irish Roman Catholic Church becomes in fact the Irish Catholic ChurchFor all I know, that may be exactly what the Vatican wants.   


  1. Great minds ...

    Though it doesn't take much imagination

    1. Love your avatar. Yea, I think the Vatican has been there and done this kind of thing before.

  2. I wonder what happens when the 'bad' theologians start putting their writings out on the Internet in pdf format. Does The Vatican think it can simply order up all those copies? This silencing harkens back to the Vatican proclaiming the wickedness of the printing press.

    1. The Internet is Bigger than the Vatican. The vatican needs to learn that every person is a reporter-journalist. It took them 400 years to correct their mistake on Galileo. In 400 years this time around, I hope the vatican will be dust.

    2. At the rate they are going it might take more like four.

  3. The Holy Spirit is Bigger than the Vatican. Too bad they don't realize that yet.


    1. Amen, Butterfly! I think the Vatican is about 600 years to late to stop Gutenberg!

    2. That is the ultimate issue, Kathy. Things most definitely started turning south for the absolute primacy of the papacy with the invention of the printing press and the printing of the Bible.

  4. The Vatican is a wholly corrupt organisation. Speak to Italians - they will tell you that the Vatican murdered Pope John Paul I, the pope who mysteriously died after 33 days... They have no illusions about the Vatican, it's part of their history. For them it's not a religious organisation, but a political organisation and a BANK, and they speak openly about Vatican's involvement with Italian and US mafia. So, Irish people, have no illusions - this is Benedict the Rat's Crusade and PRAISE BE those Irish who tell him to go to hell!

  5. Colkoch, if you were Pope, how would you respond to dissident theologians?

    1. With justice and an open mind. I can afford to do that though because my life survival is not vested in the Church.

      And then I work with severely mentally ill people and I learned a long time ago that meeting them where they were at, no matter how delusional, and treating them with compassion and as my equal went a great deal further than attempting to force them conform to my concept of reality. I represent a safety net for them. I am not their jailer. Nothing is safe for any free thinking theologian when it comes to the CDF.

      Which is too bad, because a lot of Catholics don't read theologians and drawing attention to them by disciplining them is counter productive. I would let their theology stand or fall on it's own. If I can't do that, then the issue is not about their theology, it's about my lack of faith in what I believe.

    2. Why, then, are you never compassionate toward those dissidents who you don't personally agree with?

      SSPX get rougher treatment here on your blog than 'liberal' dissidents get from the Church, after all...