Monday, June 1, 2009

When Trash Talk Inspires Murder The Talkers Talk Innocence

Pro-Life Groups Soundly Condemn Murder of Abortion Practitioner George Tiller
by Steven Ertelt Editor May 31, 2009

Wichita, KS ( -- Within hours of the Sunday murder of late-term abortion practitioner George Tiller, several leading pro-life groups genuinely and thoroughly condemned the killing. The reiterated the fact that, while they opposed the abortions Tiller did, they equally oppose the use of violence and death as a solution.

"We are shocked at this morning's disturbing news that Mr. Tiller was gunned down," Operation Rescue president Troy Newman told

"Operation Rescue has worked for years through peaceful, legal means, and through the proper channels to see him brought to justice," Newman added. "We denounce vigilantism and the cowardly act that took place this morning."

"We pray for Mr. Tiller's family that they will find comfort and healing that can only be found in Jesus Christ," Newman continued.

Kansans for Life, another pro-life group that relied only legal and political means of responding to Tiller's abortions, said it "deplored" the killing.

"Kansans for Life deplores the murder of Dr. George Tiller, and we wish to express our deep and sincere sympathy to his family and friends," KFL director Mary Kay Culp told immediately after the shooting.

"Our organization has a board of directors, and a 35 year history of bringing citizens together to achieve thoughtful education and legislation on the life issues here in Kansas," she explained. "We value life, completely deplore violence, and are shocked and very upset by what happened in Wichita today."

Father Frank Pavone, the founder and director of Priests for Life, a very prominent pro-life Catholic group, urged the media and those involved in the abortion debate not to assign blame to the pro-life community that would never employ these kinds of tactics to oppose abortion.

“I am saddened to hear of the killing of George Tiller this morning," he told
"At this point, we do not know the motives of this act, or who is behind it, whether an angry post-abortive man or woman, or a misguided activist, or an enemy within the abortion industry, or a political enemy frustrated with the way Tiller has escaped prosecution. We should not jump to conclusions or rush to judgment," Pavone added.

“But whatever the motives, we at Priests for Life continue to insist on a culture in which violence is never seen as the solution to any problem. Every life has to be protected, without regard to their age or views or actions," he said.

Other pro-life advocates have also condemned the shooting in no uncertain terms, including pro-life activist Rev. Patrick Mahoney, members of the youth pro-life group Bound for Life, and others.


It certainly looks like Bishop Finn's call to war has gone hot---again. This is not an isolated event. It has popped up before and it will continue during the Obama presidency. In a column for Huffington Post, Christina Page starkly points out the truth:

For those who would like to think today's murder in church of Dr. George Tiller, an abortion provider, is an isolated incident, here's the horrifying news: You are wrong. The pattern is clear and frightening.

In March 1993, three months into the administration of our first pro-choice president, Bill Clinton, abortion provider Dr. David Gunn was murdered in Pensacola, Florida. That was the beginning of what would become a five-fold increase in violence against abortion providers throughout the Clinton years.

Today's assassination of Dr. George Tiller comes 5 months into the term of our second pro-choice president. For anyone who would like to believe that this is a statistical anomaly, a coincidence that doesn't portend anything, again, you are wrong.

During the entire Bush administration, from 2000-2008 there were no murders.

During the Clinton era, between 1994-2000 there were 6 abortion providers and clinic staff murdered, and 17 attempted murders of abortion providers. There were 12 bombings or arsons during the Clinton years.

During the Bush administration, not only were there no murders, there were no attempted murders. There was one clinic bombing during the Bush years.

One can only conclude that like terrorist sleeper cells, these extremists have now been set in motion. Indeed the evidence is already there. The chatter, the threats, the hate-filled rhetoric are abundant.

In the last year of the Bush administration there were 396 harassing calls to abortion clinics. In just the first four months of the Obama administration that number has jumped to 1401.
The pro life groups who have expressed their outrage and condemnation of this cold blooded murder of Dr. Tiller need to ponder the above statistics. They need to ask why it is that violence against abortion providers and clinics sky rocket during Democratic administrations? If they choose to think it has nothing to do with the increase in violent language in their rhetoric, then they are as deluded as the deluded who carry out these attacks.

Even today, Catholic News Agency in their effort to distance themselves from this murder, could not resist linking Kathleen Sebelius to Dr. Tiller.

"Tiller was a significant donor to the political campaigns of the former Kansas governor Kathleen Sebelius, the pro-abortion Catholic recently appointed as Secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services.

Tiller contributed to Sebelius directly and to political action committees that he controlled.

During Sebelius' tenure as governor, Kansas City Archbishop Joseph Naumann declared that Kansas had become "infamous for being the late-term abortion center for the Midwest."
Sebelius repeatedly vetoed legislation that would have affected Tiller's business."

If CNA doesn't think that they are painting a target on Governor Sebelius's forehead, they are truly deluded. The difference is that Sebelius has government security forces in her life and Tiller didn't. This is not to imply she's safe, because according to our own domestic terrorist people, anti abortion terrorism, like the violence of the rhetoric, is on the rise.

Since Obama's election, clinics have experienced far more picketing and far more invasive techniques from anti abortion protesters. In her column Page discusses protesters actually trapping patients in their cars or going so far as to get into their cars. The police response has been negligible. This is crossing a number of legal boundaries, and is not about non violent dialogue or a Christian response.

Pro life groups, like Operation Rescue, who use graphic media stunts and violent rhetoric better get used to issuing statements like the one's quoted above. There's more violence coming and they are the great enablers. Using what's basically trash talk to set off lone nutters is as predictable as lighting a fuse to set off a bomb. They know it and that's what's really frightening. They want a hot war they don't have to actually have to fight or for which they will ever face any legal accountability. Nice gig if you can get it.

Don't be surprised if the next attack is on a Catholic politician or Catholic Obama staffer. Once the trash talk gets out of control, there is no stopping a lone nut supporter. The Catholic end of the trash talk got out of control with Notre Dame. Someone will pay the price for that, and I doubt it's going to be Bishop Finn or Randall Terry.


  1. It may well end up being the case, but how does anyone know this is someone who killed him because of his occupation in abortion? It "could" end up being the case of some bad business deal, marital issues, or anything else for which people do irrational things. Why can't we wait to hear the whole story before trying to point fingers? It doesn't hurt to wait, just a bit, for what we believe to be the story that will come.

  2. A few observations....

    1) "Operation Rescue" and the word "peaceful" do not belong together in the same sentence - except perhaps in an alternate universe! O_o

    2. Bishop Finn is a known member of Opus Dei (surprise, surprise!). Randall Terry has so many links to it there is not enough bandwidth to list their rhetoric should be no shock.

    3. The 'lone nut' construct is interesting, as many presume that the nut is germinated in a social vacuum. False - the 'nut' is trained, conditioned, or otherwise groomed. Intentionally or otherwise. Perhaps subliminally, without his conscious knowledge. It is not 'paranoia' to consider the 'lone nut' as the product of some manner of intel work - the Manchurian Candidate.

    I will bet the farm that the murderer will - somehow - be linked to some Pro-Life entity. As there is virtually no distinction to Catholic vs. Protestant Evangelical ones (thanks to Opus Dei), if true, this will bring a backlash upon innocent Catholics. Perhaps on Christians in general.

    "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain".......perhaps it is time that we DO pay attention! Because we will find many slimy things - posing as 'oh so pious'- which are literally doing the work of the Devil, clothed as would be angels of light.

    To these groups, operating in the pretense of 'saving babies', these words of Christ (sadly) apply to most of them:

    "..all their works they do to be seen of appear outwardly beautiful, but inwardly are full of dead mens bones & all manner of filthiness....and hypocrisy".

    Fanaticism is NOT of Christ; and is in opposition to His Gospel.

  3. Lifenews ran a pretty detailed account of the man's past history with certain pro life and anarchical groups like the Montana Militia.

    Operation Rescue had a number of comments from him on their website specifically regarding Dr. Tiller.

  4. Thanks...but very sadly, that proves my point. And could have dire public reprecussions for Catholics in general!

    Note well the speed & uniformity with which the various Pro-Life groups have issued their 'condolences" - in which they are both trying to distance themselves from this incident - and making a virtual denial of responsibility.

    Even in your brief quote of Fr. Frank Pavone (who makes my skin crawl.....) observe what he is really saying: he is employing trasnference. Attempting to shift blame AWAY from Pro-Life groups to.....political adversaries.....someone in the pro-abortion field.....!

    A very basic propaganda technique.

  5. Of course, Colkoch not much outrage from you - never, ever- regarding the aborted unborn and against those that support or do the killing. Please link me to your similarly outraged blogs on Planned Parenthood, et al. No conspiratorial links or presumed guilt for them. Gee, Stalin was an atheist. Atheists are then complicit (your logic applied)in his purges.

  6. This behavior is utterly reprehensible and counterproductive to the utmost degree. Whatever happened to, "...and they'll know we are Christians by our LOVE..." If this is the war the USCCB sincerely be it...

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  9. Elastico, I happen to live in the US, and whether I like it or not abortion is legal in the US. Killing abortion providers does not save lives.

    Changing our laws and putting mothers in jail will not save lives, and it will put their other children in jeopardy.

    I have no outraged blogs on Planned Parenthood because I do not confuse viable human life with potential human life and I believe in birth control. I am also not uninformed about the true tradition of this Church on viable human life and the need for baptism. I do not fall prey to the self serving lies stated by certain bishops. The Church has never had a consistent tradition on any of these issues, until Humanae Vitae hit the scene.

    I've done my homework in both American Constitutional thought and Catholic moral theology. But it's the neurophysiology I've studied than convinces me there is a huge difference between potential human life and a full human being. It takes a brain developed enough to experience sensory perception and process it meaningfully.

    I would be more than excited to see limits on abortion, especially in the third trimester, and serious discussion about the weeks 16 to 24. Anything before that is a different situation and I don't believe it's murder.

  10. Addition: I don't believe first and early second trimeser abortions are any more murder than any act committed by any person who thought they were engaging in some religiously, racially, economically, or nationally just war. And atheistic communists learned an awful lot about how to control 'enemies' and enhance their power by studying historic Roman Catholicism, after all Stalin was a seminarian.

  11. The Pro-Life movement should be afraid of what they are creating by their trash talk, as it is very much a Frankenstein they are unleashing on the world.

  12. Study all you want. And tap dance, too. My educated guess is that the Creator, who wills life, does not differentiate his creation by your concocted categories of potential and viable. Nor by size or location. Where is the starting point of anything? At the very beginning. Oh and by the logic of your origianl thread, all Muslims are then implicated in terroristic acts done by other Muslims.

  13. Not all Muslims, just the ones who spout the same rhetoric that the terrorists themselves use.

  14. Boy, Elastico's comment here is quite stunning and so arrogant and smug. I don't detect anything resembling Christian in this voice - I detect the taliban - " Study all you want. And tap dance, too. My educated guess is that the Creator, who wills life, does not differentiate his creation by your concocted categories of potential and viable. Nor by size or location. Where is the starting point of anything? At the very beginning. Oh and by the logic of your origianl thread, all Muslims are then implicated in terroristic acts done by other Muslims."

    The problem with the elastico's of this world is the presumption of saying they are following someone's supposed "logic" but are actually following their own rules of logic which have no basis in the reality or truth of the writer.

    You imagine that your God is not concocted from your very own set of rules. God is love; not logic. If you know about love, but don't know how to love and do not engage others to love, by your own rule you will fail at love. In other words, how is it that you say you know God, but do not follow Jesus Christ's commandment to love one another?

    When will your love begin and the hatred end?

  15. Butterfly, you asked "When will your love begin and the hatred end?"

    The hatred will end when the elasticos are finally able to see that their beliefs and attitudes are grounded in condemnation and hate instead of compassion, acceptance and love.

    The sad fact is that the vast majority of those in the antiabortionist movement are nothing more than domestic terrorists, attempting to forward their agenda through violence and intimidation. Violence and intimidation that is encouraged by the rhetoric and actions of the USCCB and other religious organizations.

    One only has to watch the millions of miles of video footage, look at the faces, read the messages on the signs to clearly see that the antiabortion movement is nothing more than a breeding ground for hate and violence. It is a festering sore in our society that is preventing any meaningful dialogue that would result in a peaceful resolution to the abortion issue.

    Sad fact is, those in the antiabortion movement dont want a peaceful resolution. They want the violence, they want the hate. They feed it, they encourage it and they welcome it. How many of them cheered when they heard about Tillers assassination? Look at Randall Terry's comment - he had it coming, he deserved what he got.

    Pure hate. Pure hate from a man who represents himself as the epitome of faithful catholicism. Hate supported by the USCCB.

    When will the hate end? When the leaders of our churches CHOOSE to stop being hate mongers and start practicing the priniciples that Jesus taught us. When the ecclesiastical leadership starts exemplifying divine love instead of hate, the change will be rapid and dramatic.

  16. one more thing ...

    When the leadership of the RCC starts telling the truth, instead of hiding behind lies and deception, then we will see some REALLY amazing changes.

  17. Yea, you are right Carl. Until they act with love the Gospels can not be promoted and life cannot really be promoted from the standpoint of hate either.

    The ex-wife of Tiller's killer left him because he was consumed with hatred in the Pro-life movement. It ended their marriage, their LIFE together. That says a lot and everything about the fanatic prolifer.

    I've just commented at NCR on this very subject and found the more I thought about it, the more they are just as you say; full of hatred.

    Hatred acts against life itself and leads to death.

  18. Wow.
    This is an anti Catholic blog.
    Its full of hateful comments
    from people who don't understand the authority of the church. If you don't respect the churches authority then why call yourself Catholic?? Start your own church and make your own rules -like the reformers did. Call it The Enlightened Catholic Church or whatever you want. But please stop the hateful attacks. You do not have the authority to change the Catholic Church. If The church says abortion is wrong and it shouldn't happen then it should not happen! If you have a problem with that then you have a problem with the authority of the Catholic Church. If you cannot accept certain church teachings then you have to try to understand them better. If you sill cannot accept them and you want to change them then save yourself the trouble and start that enlightened church. If I cannot understand a teaching I still try to obey that teaching. Being Catholic is not easy but you have to obey and have faith that it is the truth. non-marital sex is sin, abortion is a sin, defending those sins is a sin. Actively trying to discredit the One True Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church is a sin. Let us pray for each other to have a closer connection to God and that we praise and adore him always.